Oak Lawn Trustees Approve $5 Million ‘No-Bid’ Contract
Village board waives formal bidding process for street resurfacing.
The Oak Lawn Village Board voted to waive bidding for the village’s summer street resurfacing, awarding a $5 million contract to K-Five Construction Corporation of Lemont.
Village Manager Larry Deetjen told the board that K-Five has held the village's street resurfacing contract for the past three years. The company is already mobilized on Central Avenue doing road construction for the Illinois Department of Transportation.
“I have a problem with this not going out to bid,” Trustee Carol Quinlan (5th) said. “I know they’ve done a great job for Oak Lawn. I just think when you’re looking at dollar amounts this large, you should go out to bid.”
Deetjen said the village would save about $150,000 because K-Five has held the costs on labor and materials. IDOT, on the other hand, has posted on its web site a 7.8 percent increase in labor and materials.
Putting the village’s street resurfacing contract out to bid now could delay the work another 30 to 60 days, as companies lock in bids and set up their summer work schedules, costing Oak Lawn money in the end, Deetjen said.
“I stand by my recommendation,” the village manager added.
Mayor Dave Heilmann suggested that K-Five kick in a $25,000 contribution to Fall on the Green, Oak Lawn’s annual end-of-summer festival.
“It’s perfectly legal and perfectly beneficial,” Heilmann said. “We’re asking, ‘Are you going to contribute and help out the people who are giving you a contract of this magnitude?’”
“Actually, we’ve gone that route,” Trustee Tom Phelan (6th) said. “We’re trying.”
Oak Lawn trustees unanimously approved the $5 million contract. After the vote, Deetjen said he had already talked to K-Five about contributing to Fall on the Green.
“In the interest of transparency,” Deetjen said, “I’ve had that discussion separately and I share with you that tonight I’ve seen the commitment but not at the level (mentioned by the mayor).”
Quinlan asked that the village be allowed more time next year to bid out street resurfacing.
“I feel under the gun,” she said.
Deetjen said that communications have been flowing about the street resurfacing since February.
“These are unusual times,” he said. “We have a lot of construction projects coming down the pipeline and the private sector in Oak Lawn. I’m hopeful we’re back to some normalcy in the area of construction by 2012.”
The village plans to have approximately 12 miles of neighborhood streets resurfaced this summer.
Oak Lawn Gal
8:40 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
With the amount of street resurfacng they had planned, I think they could have gone out to bid in February or March. This is an an example of poor planning. K-Five may still have won the contract but at a lower amount. Competitive bidding is more work for everyone but in the end it's better for the village imo.
JR
8:53 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
I agree with OL Gal. What were the trustees doing 3 months ago when they should have planning? Oh I remember; they were too busy hammering the mayor over no-bid legal fees. We have a bunch of hypocrites running the Village.
Dave
9:04 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
Three months ago to now they where only worring about atacting the mayor as a contractor I would Love a no bid contract that would be great for me and bad for you Oak Lawn needs new and smarter trustees.
If I was the Mayor I would have my leagel team look Into this Matter ASAP Our strret are not that bad where we need this work performed with out bids ...........
BibbidyBobbidyBoo
9:15 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
Lorraine, do you know how I can find a list or plan of the streets that will be resurfaced, and when?
Dave
9:19 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
go to the Village and file a freedom of Infomation act form and request the Info
Or possible check the Villages web site and see if they are posted
RG
10:28 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
"Deetjen said that communications have been flowing about the street resurfacing since February."
So a bid contract could have been put out by now. I agree that is poor planning on our Public Works Dept or whoever put out contracts. Summer resurfacing work HAS to be bid and approved earlier in the year. Folks, this is nothing new.
They have had the work the last three years, have done a good job, and its natural for OL to have build a good relationship with good contractor. BUT, in these tough fiscal times, the taxpayers need competitive bidding. If K-Five is already mobilized, then no problem these savings would show in their good bid. But Deetjen can't say we will save 150K without it being bid! There are also other contractors holding down costs so they can get work. There is no way you can guarantee we are saving 150K without seeing K-Five bid at $5M and Contractor X at $5.15+M. Who knows, maybe someone comes in at $4.9M and we save $250K.
I totally agree with Trustee Quinlan that it should have been bid. I also agree with the Ol Gal and the contractor who commented above.
Pat F
10:41 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
Talk about beating a dead horse..Anyone arguing this bid problem now should have been watching for it before construction season.. It's been going on for years now and it's your fault and yours alone..Did it only bother you now so you could get some media coverage and start another fight within your board?? The time for action was back in the beginning of the year! Let's see if you're smart enough to bring it up next year..Early in the year, or will you be squabbling about some other stupid issue??
ME
2:36 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
It should have gone out to bid AND they are not doing a great job. They are doing a terrible job. Nothing is smooth, the curbs look like crap and they leave a mess while doing it and after they are done. I have footprints on my other concrete because of them. The people you had before K-five did a fabulous job. You should have kept them. Just because something costs a little less doesn't mean it's better. I don't think the quality of the material they use is as good as you would get elsewhere. I don't know who did it before and I don't know why they are no longer doing it, but they should and not K-five. Does someone in the Village know someone who works for K-five and is getting a kickback or free labor somewhere??????????????
What is the schedule of street resurfacing. That should be online for all to see so they can plan accordingly.
footprintsonernie
4:03 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
There was no company before K-Five because the streets weren't done. But at least we didn't have footprints in our concrete.
By the way, did Carol Quinlan vote in favor of the contract? I thought it was unanimous but I guess the reporter doesn't want to put all the facts in the story
andy skoundrianos
10:33 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
Was waiting for the " do they know someone in the village " excuse to come up what took you so long mmmmm I thought Dave would have told you to blog this yesterday. Ask Dave did he know someone from tressler before the village hired them as attorney's in 2005???
OakLawnGuy
9:22 am on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Go to the proper column or news item for this comment, Andy. You're more scatter-shot than QC, your nemesis.
QC
4:46 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
footprints, ask someone to read this to you!
"Oak Lawn trustees unanimously approved the $5 million contract." After the vote, Deetjen said he had already talked to K-Five about contributing to Fall on the Green.
It's on about the 33rd line down from the top. Hope you can count.
Michael Walsh
3:27 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
I find it interesting that people who would never consider using the cheapest contractor for a project on their own home always demand competitive bidding for government projects. My experience is that generally YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR! Cheapest is not always best, but once you have the bid you are pretty much stuck with using the lowest one or your opponents will scream about backroom deals. When I was on the Village board and when I was a municipal attorney I saw first hand the results when the lowest bidder was used. These decisions frequently resulted in problems and sometimes litigation over bad work, cost overruns and missed deadlines.
Oak Lawn Gal
9:30 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
My experience with competitive bidding on the corporate side is that we don't always go with the lowest bidder. Price is only one component in the criteria we look at. Each criterion is weighted and the final score gives us the top 3 bidders. We then interview the top 3 and award the contract after considering not only the proposal amount but all other factors.
When the scope of work enters the million dollar area I don't know why you wouldn't expect competitive bidding. Had the village manager initiated the process back in February time wouldn't be an issue. And K-Five might very well have still won the contract but at a lower bid.
William J Murphy
4:41 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
K-Five Construction has successfully bid and constructed numerous projects for the people of Illinois. Our clients include the Illinois Department of Transportation; Illinois State Toll Highway Authority; O'Hare International Airport; City of Chicago; Counties of Cook, DuPage, Will, and Kane; various municipalities; and railroads. Some of our recent projects are O'Hare, Midway, and Stevenson Expressway. (K5 WEBSITE)
If you need any information on the road construction industry, please feel free to visit any of the above sites that K-Five is proud to do business with and/or are members of
Illinois Department of Transportation (IDOT): www.dot.state.il.us
Illinois State Toll Highway Authority (ISTHA): www.illinoistollway.com
Illinois Road Builders Association (IRBA): www.irba.org
Illinois Asphalt Pavement Association (IAPA): www.il-asphalt.org
ACPA American Concrete Pavement Association www.pavement.com
Someone is connected to someone.
scouter
7:48 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
I have no problem with K-Five getting a heads up - for their past work and the loyalty BUT, instead of all the nasty infighting, this should have gone out for bids... Is there other work that is planned for the fall or the winter (you know - those decorations along 95th street) that should already be out there for bidding? And here we go again, with the Village Manager OK'ing spending and Ok'ing projects and TALKING the Village Board into approving something again (aka: Lawyers??? Odelson???)... And he's not even elected...
Oak Lawn Gal
9:51 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
Yes the Village Manager really runs the administrative side of village business. In the city manager-council model the city manager or village manager in our case has a lot of responsibility and a lot of power. He manages the day to day operation of village business. The mayor and trustees are part time and do seem to follow Deetjen's lead. But I'm not sure how the mayor-council model would work in Oak Lawn. Given the imprtance of the position it might make more sense to have the village manage be an elecetd position and not appointed. I see pros and cons in each model.
andy skoundrianos
10:42 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
Hey Oak Lawn gal were you one of Dave's buddies that worked with Myrna to forge signatures to get that phony referendum on the ballot?? You know the one with over 1,000 forged signatures and is know under investigations?? Dave loved village manager form of government until a real village manager came in and told him no once in a while. Check back in Dave's 2005 literature where he states A village manager form of government is the best form for Oak Lawn besides we had it for 55 years!!
Oak Lawn Gal
10:50 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
No Andy I wasn't. I don't do things that are illegal. Do you? It's interesting that you're using Dave as a source to support using the city/village manager - council model.
QC
4:49 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
bobby streit was ALL for change in the form of government a couple of years back. I believe he was one of the leaders of the movement.
Uh Oh
5:11 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Andy, this article is about another no bid contract. Read this literature.
andy skoundrianos
10:57 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
Read his literature it's all there in fact I think the patch has that piece on it's site from back in april. I'm only pointing out Dave's usual hypocrisy on issues. He stated he was 1,000 percent behind the failed referendum.. His words not mine.. Do you remember Joe Faber?? He was the worst manager we ever had. I don't recall a big effort to change the form of government from 93-05 when Joe ran this village into the ground. I just waited fora new board majority to get in and fire him. That's how you do it
Oak Lawn Gal
11:11 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
I think more people are following local politics and realize how much sway the village manager has. The question isn't about the person being good or bad in the role. The question is more about the governmental model. Are people comfortable having that much influence in an appointed position? As I said I can see pros and cons in the current model. I have more trouble visualizing how the council-mayor model would work in a smaller community like Oak Lawn. I do see some merit in making the village manager role an elected position.
OakLawnGuy
9:23 am on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Cmon Andy, stay on point. You're in the right church and the wrong pew.
Jim Vondracek
4:08 am on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I think asking the contractors to support Fall on the Green is a great idea. $25,000 is only one-half of one percent of the contract - that seems like a good number to me.
Jim Vondracek
4:17 am on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Andy, I would urge you to consider not posting attacks on Mayor Heilmann and other posters on every Patch article. Its counter-productive, it detracts from the issues in the Patch articles (for example, this article was about no-bid street repair contracts, not the village's legal counsel or the referendum regarding the form of government), and it makes the comments section of Patch nearly unreadable.
Jim Who??
3:20 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Jim who left you the boss of patch?? What about all the loony comments by all of the Phelan- haters out there??
The wild conspiracy bloggers on this site?? The attacking of people's families and spouses?? You protest too much
Long Memory
5:13 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
This forum has gone in a lot of directions but I had to address Andy's comment on Joe Faber. He obviously or conveniently forgot the Bob Streit crew's appointment of the infamous Mike Feeley as Village Manager when the town truly was run to the brink of bankruptcy.
OakLawnGuy
8:15 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Long Memory, that IS a long memory. I forgot about that guy, from the days when Streit and Mozwecz were trying to get something going. Here's a story about it: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-05-05/news/9202090860_1_kolb-5th-district-oak-lawn.
Sam Wilson
8:20 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
And, yet, Bob remains.
Oak Lawn Gal
8:39 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Didn't Bob win by just 11 votes against Sodaro as a write in?
These examples of bad village managers hired by trustees doesn't inspire confidence.
andy skoundrianos
11:36 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I thought The Mayor liked Larry in the begining, they all agreed on him when he was hired. But the mayor found out he couldn't run things as usual and then oops maybe Oak Lawn doesn't need a manager?? 16% turnout does show apathy or lack of confidence. Truly a sad statement on local government as a whole
andy skoundrianos
11:30 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
I didn't forget Feeley. You really think we were better off with Faber and Kolb?? Now you guys have to bring up the coalition party's infamous reign to refute my statements??? Your really digging fossils to make Dave look good??? Harold Mozwecz has died,Kolb has died. Guess what Faber got in less than a year after Feeley by guess what?? Kolb got re-elected and won the majority back that's how you remove a manager not by a referendum. How did we do with Faber guys?? No one was worse than Faber period....By the way I think Sodaro was a sophmore in High School when that stuff went down now that's a long memory
Uh Oh
2:57 pm on Saturday, May 21, 2011
Andy
Who is the concrete sub contractor? Is it a local?
Long Memory
9:47 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
Andy apparently has forgotten that two years of Streit, Barron, Mozewicz, Hefka, and Feeley control of the Village. Burt Odelson was the Village Attorney. Favors were given and reciprocated on a daily basis and government service was available to the highest bidder or benefactor. Streit ran for Mayor with the blind hope of continuing the sham and got trounced by Kolb whose party retook control of the Board and brought stability back to local government. Hefka fled town. Barron and Mozewicz became non-descript Feeley subsequently went to prison and Bob was left by himself. What a legacy.
Albert in a can
11:43 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
DUM DA DUM DUM.
on the record
9:01 pm on Wednesday, May 18, 2011
The Reporter On-Line May 12, 2011 By Bob Jaderberg
Oak Lawn awards roadwork contract worth $5.2 million Construction co. gets no-bid deal, will contribute to Fall on the Green Burke Engineering has agreed to reduce its fees by $8,000, village engineer Jack Gallagher said.
FEDS RAID CRESTWOOD'S ENGINEERING FIRM According to a June 25, 2009 report by Chicago's WGN radio: Federal agents raided the offices of CRESTWOOD'S ENGINEERING FIRM, the latest step in a criminal investigation into the Cook County suburb's secret use of a community well contaminated with cancer-causing chemicals. Randy Chastain, president of BURKE ENGINEERING, 18330 Distinctive Dr., Orland Park, confirmed that investigators from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency served a search warrant obtained by U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald's office. The agents left with boxes of engineering diagrams and other records related to the firm's work for Crestwood. "We're cooperating," Chastain said. "We offered them everything we have on record."
on the record
9:03 pm on Wednesday, May 18, 2011
whos the concrete subcontractor