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Sunday Comic: Trick-or-Treating as Romney and Obama

Sometimes kids understand the political process so well, it's scary.

 
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Chuck Ingwersen
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Christine

6:37 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Actually, Romney wouldn't say that because getting off your cookies and scouting out some candy is the same as getting off your cookies and finding yourself a job. It's up to you!

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Emily

9:38 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

It's a hand out. He would absolutely say that.

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AUSPICIOUS !

10:53 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

He would say that and then change it.

It's called Flip Flopping oh and that's lieing.... so typical of romney

JPauly

6:58 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

What about the corps. sitting on $1.5T in cash on not hiring? Romney says give them more $ so they can create more jobs.

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Tam O'Connell

6:58 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Um, getting off your cookies? really.

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Pro Life Crusader +

8:52 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Time for Obama to stop pretending and take off the Halloween costume as President and let Romney in Office to do a real mans job!

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Ellie

12:22 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

"A real mans [sic] job"?
Go back to the 1950s where you belong, Pro Life Crusader, and leave the conversation (and the country) to those of us who live in 2012.

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SouthSide

12:07 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

@Pro Life Crusader +
LOL! Romney proves every day that he is a complete failure. He failed his state and now is failing his campaign. He is incapable of leading a parade, let alone a nation.

Jeff Janes

9:27 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

You can't be pro-life if you want to repeal The Affordable Care Act and have no real plan to replace it. By the way, you can't call yourself a Christian, either.

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AUSPICIOUS !

11:26 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Are you a flip flopper too ? just askin.........

Pro Life Crusader +

10:36 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Jeff Obamacare will not work and it will fail! Not a Christian? Who are you to say? God!

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Ellie

12:24 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

The ACA has already worked. Tell the thousands of people who haven't been booted from their insurance for being sick, being too old, or having a preexisting condition that it hasn't worked and they will laugh at you.

Jennifer

10:42 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Jeff, How does the Affordable Care Act in any way promote pro life? Paying for abortions, paying for birth control, boards of non-medical bureaucrats presiding over medical decisions (death squads as they're known), etc... All while forcing people to go along with it.

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Ellie

12:25 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Jennifer, do yourself a favor and actually read about the ACA because you don't know anything about it. Clearly.

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Edward Leifheit

2:31 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Like Ellie has read all 2700 pages of the bill. I'd laugh but it's not funny.

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Ellie

4:12 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Have you, Edward? Or, like Jennifer, do you just rely on what Fox "news says about it?

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10:56 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Romney would say one thing and then change it, Yes Flip Flopping is his agenda oh and being a professional Liar, he is good i must say oR, And are the people in favor of romney just clueless? Just sayin......

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Walt Hines

10:56 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Vera's back.
Obamacare you mean Romneycare.

Someone please explain to me what exactly Romney's plan is. I have heard nothing consistent at all, you get a different answer depending on who he's talking to. If you do the math his numbers don't add up, off by about 4 trillion. There's no way he can do the cuts and keep any of the tax deductions that most of middle american's count on, mortgage interest, property taxes, college deductions, etc.
I'd also like to know what jobs he's going to create as I've heard very little and at what pay. (reducing the minimum wage to $5.50 isn't going to cut it) Cutting taxes for the corporations to hire is a big farce, they could have done this during Bush and that didn't happen. They'd rather send the jobs overseas and pay these people 99cents an hour, some countries it's $2.00 a day.
As far as medicare I don't buy that the ones receiving it now will still continue to get it. Medicare is a pyramid and when younger workers stop putting money into it, it will run out. While I'm not thrilled with Obama I'm horrified about Romney. IMO, women will loose all rights and that would effect my girls. Equal pay for equal work. ( Vera quit with the abortion already and have an adult conversation about the economy, etc..)

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Annette Kay

11:35 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Walt, there are a couple things I'm sure of. Others I would have to research. First, corporations do not pay taxes, they have to and do pass them on to their customers. Countries we compete with have much lower taxes than we do and we could sell more goods overseas requiring corporations to hire more people. Second, corporations like GM go overseas to manufacture cars they will be selling there just as foreign corporations have come here to manufacture cars they will be selling to us. Anyway, the more manufacturing, the more tax you can collect from the increased numbers of employed workers.
Collecting taxes is not a static game. When the government takes money out of the economy, of course it will depress the economy, so less revenue. So taxing authorities have to be careful they don't tax unnecessarily for frivolous purposes, like Big Bird which can survive with private donations and advertising, or for condoms that people can well afford to provide for themselves. And that includes Viagra.

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Will Joseph

11:09 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Walt Hines:

Romney is about three, maybe four hours away from turning completely and totally into Tricky Dicky Nixon. He has said - and will continue to say - just about anything to just about anybody, provided that person is brain-dead enough to vote for him.

And now, a little truth by way of levity:

An ultra-conservative, a moderate conservative, an independent, and a moderate liberal walk into a bar.

And the bartender looks up and he says:

"Oh, HI, Mitt!"

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Walt Hines

7:39 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Will Joseph Big Boy Romney wants to get rid of Fema. Can you imagine what the East Coast would be facing had this already been in place. Nothing like helping your own first but we all see how he feels about that. Nothing like supporting the banks and economy here, or has the Caymen Islands been included. He flip flops so darn often that even the sane people are starting to question their own sanity. I'm sure if I give it enough time he'll be back to his original answer.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the people devastated by this storm, God Bless!!

AUSPICIOUS !

11:01 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

We have good reason to be Horrified by Romney !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some people have not mastered how to have a "Adult" conversation....

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Jack Walker

1:45 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

cbs, That would be "AN" Adult conversation, not "A" Adult conversation.

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4:43 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Hey Jack that was the LOLEST and WRC about WUT,
an a or whtevr

you still GOT T Pt
he he he

God bless you

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Annette Kay

11:45 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

People would like you better, C B, if you would stop the phony "God bless you". Do you even believe in God?

Pro Life Crusader +

11:12 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Walt I do care about the economy! That's one reason Obama has to go, so he doesn't bring the U.S. further and further into debt or bankruptcy ! That's what other Countries are waiting for! As for as Abortion , it also has a big role who I vote for and does play a role in politics!

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Ellie

12:32 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

If you want fewer abortions, PLC, support comprehensive sex education and easy access to effective birth control. The only way to reduce or eliminate abortion is by preventing unintended pregnancies. Making abortion illegal or unattainable is not a solution, but rather compels poor, desperate women to terminate their pregnancies through dangerous means, sometimes resulting in their death. What's pro-life about that?

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Ellie

12:42 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Also, the GOP's favorite cadence about how the President has brought the country into huge debt is completely untrue. Under President Obama's administration, government spending is the lowest since President Eishenhower in the 1950s. The country's current enormous debt is largely related to interest caused by the debt taken on during the Bush years and the fact that Bush kept the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan off the books. When President Obama took office, he insisted that the funding for the wars be included in the budget.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-spending-binge-never-happened-2012-05-22?pagenumber=1

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Mike F.

3:36 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Do you know that most of Rmoney's economic team served under Dubya? Those are the same policies that got us in this mess in the first place.

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5:45 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

vera the U S

was in significant debt when he took office

don't even Blame all this debt on Obama

President Obama is not a magician, all the damage that Republicans are responsible for took years for them to cause this reck ,

President Obama couldnt change under for years...

it is what it is and people need to recognize that of what it is and Why.

you really need to think about what really got the US in the shape it's in, And it's not Obama.

The policies Romney will put in place are exactly what put US in the position it is now,with Romney the economy will in fact get worst ..

God Bless you

The Sentinel

11:18 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

"Timmy"?
Should be "Gee Barry".

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Will Joseph

11:28 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Oh, Baiter.

The cartoon depicts two little kids wearing Obama and Romney MASKS.

NOW do you get it?!

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Ellie

12:26 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

I'm not clicking on your link, PLC. Why? Because it's a blog.

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Emily

1:06 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Ellie - Don't you know if it's on the internet it must be true? Next PLC will let us know about the AIDS needles at the gas pumps that the News doesn't want you to know about.

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AUSPICIOUS !

6:52 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Hey Vera

i thought catholics didnt hate. you sound like hater (prevents growth and progress)

i just thought they were all pedophiles and repetitive repenters.

Jack don't forget to check my grammar LOL

Just sayin.............

AUSPICIOUS !

11:23 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Good for you.

Both Parties are full of Malarkey !!!

it is a matter of which one malarkey hurts/affects one the worst

and we all have or will have a mother or a wife or daughter, grandaughters....Romney will take away all their rights, almost like slavery...

I vote Obama !!!! i want the women in my family , friends and generations to come to have the rights they deserve.

Not just the Abortion thing i am so NOT focused on that if the right to an abortion is taken away or not covered under insurance women will sadly turn to self aborting like back in the day,

But more importantly Romney will take away many other rights as well, it's his religion beliefs that will impact his opinions of women and their rights.

and as we all know mixing Religion and Politics is a recipe for disaster !!! Just sayin...

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Shirley Lassiter

11:36 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

www.findthedata.org, government, scoll down for political candidates and then click next to obama and romney and click to compare. Nice side by side comparison. Scroll down and check it all out. Personally horrified that fiscal responsibilty will be passed to state level... how is Illinois handling their fiscal responsibility these days? Work... even if you have to do it for less, work for yourself, just work. The more people that get back to work the better. Don't wait for anyone to hire you... start your own business. Never give up... something is netter than nothing. Keep your mind,skills, and relationships up. This to shall pass and it looks more every day that it is up to each of us to save all of us!

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11:37 am on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Obama has done many things

But he isnot a magician, these changes take time....

Bush left him with a sack of &^%$, and republicans fighting him on every issue

You do the math......Just sayin !

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mike ellison

5:39 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Obama said prior to the election that he was inheriting the worst economy since the Great Depression. So he knew what he was getting into when he made his promises. He's failed miserably despite spending the most money ever in his bailout package.

The Dems had a majority in Congress for the first two years and they still couldn't achieve anything notable. And the reason that they lost their majority was because the voters didn't like the results. Otherwise, they could have continued with a majority if their policies actually made any sense and actually were successful.

AUSPICIOUS !

12:06 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

www.findthedata.org , very interesting....................... take a look for your self

I agree with you work and never give up or give in.

something to consider as well, Many people are choosing not to work for whatever reasons. They arenot good reasons.

Part of the Big Picture Problem is Comprehension of it all, there is a lot to understand and much to consider. But how does one consider if the don't understand?

Are more people starting to care less? it seems that this may be so.

Just sayin.........

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Annette Kay

12:57 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Of course, Republicans are fighting Obama on every issue - raising taxes on the "rich" job creators will cost jobs and would reduce Obama's trillion dollar deficits by only 8%. And that does not factor in the effect of those jobs losses on revenue. Tax increases do not necessarily produce Higher revenue, at least not in an ailing economy.

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7:15 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Ann k

I am not here to be liked, if you don't like me ( a person you don't know)
perhaps i should ask you if you blieve in God ? and also ask you about being sane or in, Just sayin...........

If you come on here to be liked, what a shame.

you send digs towards others , but you cannot take it back. i think your hilarious. and i am neutral on liking someone i don't know...

i may not agree or like some statements people say, But oh well !!
it doesnot ruined my day LOL

I Love myself , God Loves me and countless friends and relatives loves me.
he he he

God Bless YOU

Jack Walker

1:48 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

NONE of these posts are ON TOPIC!! Why bother with the cartoons??????

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6:45 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

jw it's CBS
I see you havenot mastered how to have A adult conversation either.
that was real childish, i'm just sayin.....

and why all the ?????????????? you have OCD, just askin.......

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Joe Wilson

6:58 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

cbs. It's NOT "A" adult coversation. It's "AN" adult conversation. BTW speaking of being "Really" childish.....I'm just sayin'....

Annette Kay

2:40 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Jack so right. Both Democrats and Republicans could get a laugh out of it. Not a nasty cartoon. But the point of it is the two points of view - we all like free stuff but.... Democrats admit it readily and use it to get votes and Republicans fight the tendency because they think it disincentives hard work and entrepreneurship. If there had been all these free handouts 200 years ago, would we ever have conquered the wilderness?

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2:43 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

This may be off topic of the cartoon, but where did you expect it would lead too?

Cute cartoon, But Lets find some facts to talk about....
Obama has talked about Planned Parenthood’s supposed mammography services throughout his 2012 campaign. Here are a few examples of his remarks:

“When Governor Romney says that we should eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, there are millions of women all across the country who rely on Planned Parenthood for NOT just contraceptive care. They rely on it for mammograms, for cervical cancer screenings.” etc etc

does anyone care that these benefits will be taken away by Romney ?

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Annette Kay

2:49 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Casey Mattox of Alliance Defending Freedom recently pointed out that, "according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, no Planned Parenthood clinic in the country is authorized to perform mammograms under the federal Mammogram Quality Standards Act." They don't perform mammograms. In any case, abortions are where PP makes its profits.

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Ellie

4:18 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

This might blow your little mind, Annette, but Planned Parenthood is a nonprofit organization.

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Emily

4:23 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Annette - does your doctor perform mammograms? Does your doctor perform blood work? they do however provide you the paperwork to go and get them. In the case of PP, it is PP that covers the cost of them.
Annette - PP is not the only place to get an abortion, that I can get from a doctors office.
I don't understand why people think it's the only place in all the world where abortions take place. Why not try doing research on facts (and I mean actual facts) on things before you post.

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AUSPICIOUS !

4:51 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Ellie said you have a little mind LOL

this is getting ridiculously funny once again

Emily you still can't derive at any of your own opinions ???

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Pro Life Crusader +

5:30 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

PPH is a non profit orginization, but still get tons of Federal funding and it's true almost all PPH don't do mammograms! It's a front for wicked abortions(murder).

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Pro Life Crusader +

5:54 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

The vast majority of services that PPH performs is abortion!!! Sure it's okay with Obama that a baby 8 months old can be sucked and ripped from a woman's womb and the body is thrown in the trash! Abortion is just like the atrocities of Auschwitz!!

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Chronicles of Bob

7:57 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

How many times have you been told and shown you are wrong on this vera... abortions are not their lead service.

Annette Kay

3:41 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

C. B. Smith - would you like to pay for the gun I need to protect my life (my health)? Apparently you are really a Democrat stuck on Obama if you can't believe Romney's word - he has no intention of getting rid of abortion, nor do the huge majority of Republicans. They just don't want to pay for your wife's or daughter's abortion or their birth control pills with their health insurance payments. That is against the religious principles of many people. But you are certainly entitled to pay for your own abortions, etc. When Muslim taxi drivers wanted a place to wash their feet before prayer at a public airport, they got their wish. Are Christians lesser human beings?

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Ellie

4:33 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Annette, It is impossible to know how Romney feels about abortion (or any issue, really) because his words change every other day. But you might consider familiarizing yourself with the GOP vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan, who calls himself as "pro-life as a person gets" and the Republican platform, which includes a human life amendment (a fertilized egg “shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood”) and strict anti-abortion language that has no exceptions for rape, incest, or life/health of the pregnant woman. So while you're right that the vast majority of Republicans have no intention of getting rid of abortion, the politicians you've chosen to represent you DO have that intention. Radicals have taken over your party. I'm terrified of those nutjobs and annoyed at people like you who are complicit in this highjacking of Democracy.

To your other (sort of) point, health insurance is part of salary. An employer has no right to tell its employees how they can spend their vacations or paychecks, nor do they have a right to dictate how an employee uses his or her health benefits. (And if Catholics are SOOO against birth control, why did I get my IUD at a Catholic hospital?)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57497592-503544/republicans-approve-platform-with-strict-anti-abortion-language/

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AUSPICIOUS !

4:47 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Hey A K, Thanks for letting me know and have a Blessed evening

: ) )

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4:57 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

oh by the way

I donot believe in abortion, unless it is to save a life.

frankly i am torn when a pregnacy is the result of a rape, i can't touch that one.

I am just keeping it real , just sayin....

I'm not stuck on anyone

But a great poet once said, "when you see crazy coming, cross th street "

when it comes to Romney and some of you on here, I cross the street....

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5:02 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

I would love to pay for you a gun sure, but you seem a little off balance .
your not gonna go on a shooting spree are you ??

he he he

People lighten up, just sayin......

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Emily

5:49 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Annette - a person washing their own feet is not the same as stripping every woman of her rights regardless of their own personal religious beliefs.

If you're against abortion, don't have one. But your beliefs do not dictate what I can do with my body. My Body, My Choice.

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Joe Wilson

6:48 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

@dbs. Emily you still can't Derive at any of your own opinions????
Derive: conclude, decide, deduce, infer, extrapolate, gather, judge, make out, reason, understand - Miriam Webster
Don't point fingers.

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Emily

7:02 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Vera - you have zero proof that 93 - 97% of abortion are for convenience.

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Pro Life Crusader +

8:07 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Emily where's your proof it isn't ! Read and learn!

Just in case you missed this at Duty Calls yesterday...it's worth noting. Get involved and saves lives.

The pro-abortion rights Alan Guttmacher Institute reports that there have been nearly 50 million abortions performed since 1973, the year the Supreme Court issued the Roe v. Wade decision ushering in legal abortion nationwide.

In 2008, Guttmacher says, there were 1.2 million "legally terminated pregnancies" in the United States, based on reports complied from state and local health agencies -- down from 1.3 million the year previous.

According to Guttmacher, 35 percent of all U.S. women will have had an abortion by age 45.

Guttmacher also reports that 93 percent of all abortions occur for “social reasons” such as a mother’s decision that the child is unwanted or “inconvenient.” [THAT is what "choice" is all about. "Social reasons" is a euphemism for convenience. That 93 percent represents about 46 million babies -- Duty Calls]

Both Guttmacher and CDC say that black women are more than four times more likely than non-Hispanic white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are 2.7 times as likely. [Can you say genocide? It gets worse! -- Read the rest at CNSNews.com -- Duty Calls]

Remember, these are human beings we're talking about. These 50-million murdered people!

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Emily

8:40 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Never heard of "Duty Calls" so most likely some Christian right nonsense.

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Pro Life Crusader +

9:49 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Emily I think the CNSN is pretty reliable.

CNSNews.com was launched on June 16, 1998 as a news source for individuals, news organizations and broadcasters who put a higher premium on balance than spin and seek news that’s ignored or under-reported as a result of media bias by omission.

Study after study by the Media Research Center, the parent organization of CNSNews.com, clearly demonstrate a liberal bias in many news outlets – bias by commission and bias by omission – that results in a frequent double-standard in editorial decisions on what constitutes "news."

In response to these shortcomings, MRC Chairman L. Brent Bozell III founded CNSNews.com in an effort to provide an alternative news source that would cover stories that are subject to the bias of omission and report on other news subject to bias by commission.

CNSNews.com endeavors to fairly present all legitimate sides of a story and debunk popular, albeit incorrect, myths about cultural and policy issues.

Pro Life Crusader +

4:51 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

I'm all for the Romney/Ryan or any President ticket to try and get rid for abortion(murder) .

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Ellie

5:05 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Like I said, if you truly, honesty want fewer abortions, support comprehensive sex education and readily available birth control. Reducing the number of unintended pregnancies is the ONLY way to prevent abortion, not making abortion illegal. That means supporting President Obama.

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Stones

6:08 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Vera, you also said you support Judy Biggert, who happens to be a pro-abortion Republican.

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AUSPICIOUS !

6:35 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

vera i liked your old name better
he he he

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Emily

6:46 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Vera - if you look to your Christian Coalition of America, they claim Judy Biggert is pro-abortion. Or Pro Choice to the non insane people.

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Pro Life Crusader +

10:47 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Ellie gag me! I will never support Obama!!!

Pro Life Crusader +

5:41 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Also why should we pay for prostitutes that get pregnant on a regular bases and get abortions and we pay for them! Keep an aspirin between the knees!

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Emily

5:43 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

A prostitute keeping an aspirin between their needs would not be productive to earning a living.

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RB

1:05 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Also - Vera, why did you decide to create a new account?

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7:18 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

RB

she probably was kicked off, and had to start a new account

Pro Life Crusader +

5:45 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

A prostitute should get a different job then, instead of spreading their legs !

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Will Joseph

9:44 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Right, as opposed to YOU, TomSelleckJohnMoreliVeraProLifeCrusader. I'd call you a pathetic publicity whore, but that would be an insult to hard-working ladies of the evening the world over ...

Annette Kay

5:49 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Ellie, I'm not going to argue with you about Republican or Democrat platforms - they are wish lists. Republicans do not have a death wish list after all but just the opposite.

Regarding Ryan, do you know where Biden disagrees with Obama? He does and keeps quiet about it. I am sure you know that vice presidents follow the line of the president. In any case, I, like most Republicans hope that some day Democrats will realize what they are doing to unborn human life, to themselves and to our hopes as a nation when they kill their young but we do not intend to force anything on you as you did with Obamacare. And I say "you" as standing up for your party.

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Annette Kay

5:53 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Ellie, You said "health insurance is part of salary. An employer has no right to tell its employees how they can spend their vacations or paychecks, nor do they have a right to dictate how an employee uses his or her health benefits. (And if Catholics are SOOO against birth control, why did I get my IUD at a Catholic hospital?)" First of all, employers DO have a right to decide what they will pay for. It is their money until after it is spent. That is, until Obamacare. Democrats loaded their "wish list" of benefits onto the insurance we and our employers have to pay for whether we want them or not. That makes all insurance more costly as nothing is free. In addition, we may no longer have high deductible insurance plans which many independent small business have or none at all. We are sacrificing the many for the few. And I don't know one Catholic hospital from another, never go to them.

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Pro Life Crusader +

6:17 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Annette you are correct! Do you know what is going to happen next if and when Obamacare takes effect? Employers/Companies will start getting rid of all their employees health insurance in masses and then everyone will flood Obamacare and it will collapse because the money will not be there!

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Ellie

6:07 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Vera, Many parts of Obamacare HAVE taken effect. It's mighty hilarious the way you have so many opinions about so many things but yet you know absolutely nothing about any of those things.

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AUSPICIOUS !

6:33 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Hey A Kay

yeah yeah ok, whatever you say. your right.

i learned years ago to just agree with irrational people and keep it rollin ....

LOL

Pro Life Crusader +

6:10 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

That's right a fully developed baby that's 8 months in the womb has no rights about being killed a violent death. Then I should have the right to cruise Chicago and start executing gang bangers that rape , rob and kill ! Is there a difference?

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8:02 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Emily you know what Vera's answer is gonna be to that.

Please don't open the door for one of vera's irrational response, Just saying.....

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Pro Life Crusader +

1:28 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Emily are you saying there is legitimate rape? I can think of one possible scenario??

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9:48 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012

Vera if you believe in Legitimate rape,
Do you believe a person can be a Legitimate fool ?
Just askin..........

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6:30 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

“When Governor Romney says that we should eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, there are millions of women all across the country who rely on Planned Parenthood for not just contraceptive care.
They rely on it for mammograms ( referrals), for cervical cancer screenings.”

— Obama during second presidential debate, Oct. 16, 2012

“When people say we should get rid of Planned Parenthood, they’re not just talking about restricting a woman’s ability to make her own health-care decisions; they’re talking about denying, as a practical matter, the preventive care like mammograms (referrals) that millions of women rely on.”

— Obama during White House Forum on Women and the Economy, April 6, 2012

“In many of these states Planned Parenthood is your only possible access to not only abortion but pap smears, cervical cancer screenings, mammograms. It is a place where women who may not otherwise have the means can take care of their own bodies.”

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AUSPICIOUS !

7:02 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Testing for sexually-transmitted infections: 3.6 million

Contraception: 2.2 million

Emergency contraception: 1.5 million

Pregnancy tests: 1.1 million

Pap tests: .8 million

The organization actually performed more than twice the number of breast exams (747,607) as abortions (329,445) that year. Furthermore, abortion ranked eighth out of 19 Planned Parenthood services in terms of how many times the group provided each type of assistance.
Just to clarify, Planned Parenthood does directly provide breast exams, but only the hands-on variety that doctors administer. This is different from mammograms, which require x-rays.

Planned Parenthood recommends a mammogram once a year for women 40 and above, whereas it advises younger women to undergo a breast exam every one to three years.

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Walt Hines

8:39 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Thank you C B Smith for the info. They do provide medical services to the ones who have no insurance. I know they helped my wife after we lost our health care. That would be a "BIG" thanks to Bain Capital for taking my job overseas.
Right now I have no healthcare. My employer's don't offer it and I can't afford the $700.00 a month premium it would cost for only me. I have a pre-existing condition, no one wants to insure a person like me.
We can send millions of dollars of money overseas to help other countries but we can't take care of our own. We can go to 2 wars, that did nothing but put us in a big fat hole, yet we can't take care of the people that are here paying taxes.
I use to think this was the greatest country in the world but that's beginning to change. We give 2 rats butts about the people here, we ship more jobs over seas than we create here, our children fall way behind in education compared to the rest of the world, we feel it's best to give millionaires tax breaks instead of making sure our elderly get their retirement to live out their years and while they're at it they'll raise gas to 5 bucks a gallon and chain the women to the kitchen stove.

This country is so screwed up!

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Emily

8:46 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Walt - I couldn't agree more. If my employment didn't offer health benefits, I would not be able to afford it either. I have a friend who had a lump found in her breast and needed an ultrasound (turned out to be nothing) but because of that, insurance companies claimed she was a 'cancer risk' and her premiums were $1,700 a month. So she goes without.
We treat our criminals better than our homeless. Criminals are able to get 3 square meals and free health care. But when someone needs help treating their terminal illness we expect their families to go bankrupt just to try to get them care.
I think people are shading their eyes to what will happen if the R&R boys get in. Their elderly will have no social security benefits and the medicare vouchers will run out and treatments will need to halt. It's going to be a terrible place to live come Jan 2014 with those two in office.

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Walt Hines

10:00 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Emily glad to hear that your friend is ok! I'm legally deaf in one ear and that becomes a problem for the insurers. What some people don't understand is there's a day coming when they'll dock you for having too many colds or if your kid ends up in the E.R. with a broken bone.

The E.R. is becoming the doctor's office for many. This is the most expensive place to receive care but people can't be turned away due to no-insurance. Have you ever seen some of these emergency rooms, there's usually a 3-4 hr wait to see anyone. I see this problem only getting worse.

It's a crime that we can give tax breaks or allow the big boys to pay 14% in taxes and ship the jobs overseas. Yet we can't take care of children with cancer and give them proper medical care. I can't tell you the number of kids I saw whose parents were fighting tooth and nail to get them the treatment they needed. This is like the abortions of the living. If you can't afford or don't have insurance you're headed for what the nurses nicknamed the dying rooms. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, makes a person sick. Imagine if it was your child! No one here is safe from getting cut off, it can happen in an instant!

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AUSPICIOUS !

7:46 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Hi Walt,
I agree so much with you. This country has always been A-backwards.

I worked with C Charities, and they are constantly sponsoring foreigners, from india, africa, cuba, and the list goes on. and once they get here CC house's them (Yes pays their rent for years) ,case managers take them down to get food stamps and a medical card and they are automatically approve.

You or I or any other american who has paid into the system, are denied for all the aformentioned benefits that the foreigners get. oh and they get enrolled into COD to take classes For free too

I am all for helping others, But USA need to take care of their own first.
The educatonal system yes is screwed up.
Elderly care and benefits or lack of is screwed up on so many levels, to many to list .

Taxation has always been crazy unfair, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, that seem like the game plan for Politicians

I am happy to see a president wanting to make some changes there. But so many things need to be changed, so many things are broken.

well obama care will take you with pre existing conditions. There is no one answer.

But what i do want to say in all sincerity, is that i hope and pray things turn around for you and others that are in this situation, not having healthcare isnot good as we all know.
and your wife deserved the help and i believe many other women have or will need it at some point as a long/short temporary means.

God Bless you and your family

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AUSPICIOUS !

7:49 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

No matter who becomes president, this world is broken, and i personally wish the best for everyone. in all situations.

I live my life with H.O.P.E

(H) aving
(O) nly
(P) ositive
(E) xpectations

and Pray for the best and God will do the rest....

God Bless you and yours.

Pro Life Crusader +

8:47 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Abortions must stop at PPH.

Media Hides Fact: Planned Parenthood Does 40% of Abortions

We are going to hear a lot about “reproductive choice,” “women’s rights,” and how wonderful Planned Parenthood is in the media this week.

The fact of the matter is that 51 percent of Planned Parenthood’s yearly clinic income – their only self-sustaining revenue source – comes from abortion, 329,445 abortions.

40 percent of all reported abortions committed in the United States occur at a Planned Parenthood clinic, making it by far the largest abortion provider in America. (Editor’s note: When using the national abortion numbers from the Guttmacher Institute, Planned Parenthood does 27.5 percent of all abortions in the United States,)

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Emily

8:56 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

By your own statement Vera, 40% meaning less than half. Unless you're using Romney math then it's all of them....

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Annette Kay

11:18 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

It would be nice, Emily, if you would stop going out of your way to accuse the guy who may be your next president of things you say out of prejudice instead of knowledge. Planned Parenthood has been known to council teenagers, and even has a texting operation, in ways to have an abortion without involving their parents. Since parents are responsible for the welfare of their children, whether PP likes it or not, PP does not have to live with the consequences of the Morning After pill or the psychological damage that often results from an abortion. What exactly is PP's agenda?

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Emily

8:46 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Annette - Romney declared half of the green energy business have gone out of business. Half. Meaning 50%. When in fact, out of the 63 business created, 5 of them went out of business. You do the math.

If a 12 year old girl goes to the hospital and wants to have an abortion, the doctor is not allowed to discuss with her parents unless she gives her OK. I don't understand why some of you think PP is the only place in this country where abortions are performed. The Morning After Pill is not the Abortion Pill. The Morning After Pill can only try to prevent pregnancy. However, if a woman is pregnant she can take that every day and it won't do anything. Morning After Pill is provided at any pharmacy nationwide and you do not need a prescription (If you're over 18 years of age) to receive it.

PP's agenda is to provide affordable health care to women who cannot otherwise afford it.

I had a friend who was not provided health coverage through her employer and use to go to PP for her cancer screenings and prescriptions. Her pap and 3 month supply of birth control was only $150. At my physician, I was paying $260 for the pap alone.

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Pro Life Crusader +

10:44 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Emily PPH is for the poor and the well to do too. Go to PPH in Aurora sometime and watch the expensive cars and SUV's pull into the parking lot and woman dressed in
fancy clothes. Let me guess they are there for free services as they can't afford it? No! They are there for a disposal of an unwanted baby on tax payeer money .

Tony Cesare

8:53 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

WOW. More cartoon click bait. Apparently the Patch cartoon "artist" was hired on his ability to draw a bad caricature of President Obama, which he has repeated three weeks in a row.

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Emily

8:58 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Um....caricature means exaggerated or distorted so are you upset it looks too much like the President?

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Annette Kay

9:14 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Tony, that's how I feel whenever I see a picture of myself, couldn't someone have made me look better? It's not fair. Both candidates have nice smiles on their faces, I think the cartoon is great.

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AUSPICIOUS !

5:29 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

i think Romney looks gay, look at how his legs are positioned LOL

Annette Kay

9:10 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

I'm sure everyone posting here, except the snarky SBSmith, cares about the poor, the disabled, the hungry, etc. But you don't say how we would pay for it. to use a word from Obama, European health care is not optimal. You have to wait in line. Why? They can't afford the multiple systems of care we have, the doctors are not well paid, they are essentially bureaucrats who work for the system. You should say how we will pay for a good health care system that takes care of everyone without the long waits that many Europeans and Canadians have to put up with because of the scarcity of doctors and expensive diagnostic equipment. Ordinary American can't afford to fly to Cuba or wherever to get better service. Obama has arranged for multiple taxes to pay for it but it's been projected that Obamacare will still raise our deficit by another $2 trillion. Am I wrong?

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Stones

10:26 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Yes, you are wrong about a couple of things. First off, the ACA is not a European style health system, it's not socialized medicine. It's only providing access and coverage to many who couldn't obtain it on their own. The manner in which patients are treated isn't changing at all. It really comes down to being insurance reform, not health care reform.

Secondly, who projected the ACA will raise the deficit (I think you mean debt) by $2 trillion? The CMS has projected a savings over the next 10 years.

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AUSPICIOUS !

7:56 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Thank you stones, for shedding light and making corrections.

God Bless you

Pro Life Crusader +

9:21 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Annette my brothers fiancé is from Poland and she says the health care system there does not work and after a certain age you are considered to old for specific care! She's even followed up on Obamacare and sees similarities to the same system in Poland and thinks we are are doomed for proper care.

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Annette Kay

10:55 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

I occasionally hear from East European immigrants who came here for a better life but see our country going the way of the Europeans and they are worried. People here seem to think we can make heaven earth if we only do things right. but nothing in life is really free, you have to pay for it one way or another. All these good things people want add up, sometimes the credit card gets maxed out and we lose everything in the end. We should seriously be looking at what is happening to Greece, Spain, Italy..... People don't even want to give up paying for Big Bird.

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Ellie

10:26 am on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

The word you want is "fiancée." Yes, spelling makes a difference because at first I thought your brother was gay.

Pro Life Crusader +

11:19 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012

Dump big bird already and stop funding PBS. 450 million for a station with a stupid bird.

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AUSPICIOUS !

7:52 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

WOW,
Vera you stoop that low to call Big Bird Stupid?

you have finally hit rock bottom.....

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Pro Life Crusader +

9:25 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Rock bottom over a stupid bird? Silly me did Obama make big bird the official bird of the U.S. Time for big bird to fly the coop!

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AUSPICIOUS !

9:36 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

calling a bird stupid? how old are you ? i'm just sayin...........

God Bless you Vera

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Pro Life Crusader +

10:28 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Do you guys love big bird? How old are we? It's a stupid bird costume Silly me some of you people probably think big bird is real!

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AUSPICIOUS !

8:13 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Vera just because your all alone,because you have ran everyone away in your life y

doesnt mean we are alone like you, i have kids who YES loves Big Bird and i grew up loving Big Bird too.

450 million dollars is for a station(PBS) Not just Big Bird

Focus Vera Focus !!!

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Pro Life Crusader +

9:27 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

I think big bird sucks and was silly! Do you like Miss Piggy and Kermit too CB! Wow ! Plus let PBS do fund raisers from their viewers for their money instead if federal funding ! WTTW dosent get federal funding ,but funding from its viewers!

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Baba Wawa

3:58 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Had I known your mother was pregnant with you, I would have not only paid for the abortion, I would have performed it myself.

You're N U T S.

tom

7:31 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

I see that Vera has been banned by the Patch so he's created another new alias. There have been so many, Tom Selleck, Joe Morelli...I've forgotten all of them.

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AUSPICIOUS !

9:39 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

LOL

yes he/she has.

so Tom How do you feel about this campaign?

i personally think both parties are full of Malarkey...

it's just a matter of whose Malarkey best fits one's circumstances..

Have a good Day and God Bless

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Pro Life Crusader +

12:22 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Sorry to burst your bubble Tom!!!! Pop!! No reason to be banned! I choose to change my screen name as a calling from God! Amen to the only God!

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Emily

12:44 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

God called you? What does he sound like? I guess you and Michelle Bachmann should collaborate

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Pro Life Crusader +

1:01 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Emily God doesn't speak to us? Explain your beating heart, the sun comes out everyday , changing seasons, the mountain and the oceans and all the beauty in the world ! That is God speaking to us everyday! I forgot you believe in evolution so it must be the primates that done all of this to us? Not ! Also are you saying I'm not to believe what I believe in?

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Stones

1:49 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Vera, I'm pretty sure science expalins most of those things and I'm even more sure that the rising sun has nothing to do with evolution. Something about planets orbiting, I think. Seasons? Once again, earth orbiting that rising sun while tilted on it's axis. Mountains? Something about the ice age and glaciers. Shall I go on? Were you educated in a cave?

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Pro Life Crusader +

2:19 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Stones I'm very educated and probably more than you are! All the things you think you explained and were taught to you are actually Gods doing from the very beginning and he can stop it when ever he wants too!!!

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AUSPICIOUS !

8:15 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

God called you to tell you to change your name on the patch?

WOW, you really do have issues vera

I am gonna pray for you dude

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Pro Life Crusader +

9:20 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Yes CB God speaks to us every day ! Something wrong with that?

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mejaneyoucheetah

10:00 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

To tom, so has CB Smith, formerly known as "Honey Bear Here" !

Ann Kerbs

7:39 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

This cartoon shows that the big government Republicans and Democrats won't change a thing. Don't waste your vote on MORE OF THE SAME! The only candidate with a platform for real change is Gary Johnson. If Gary Johnson receives 5% of the vote, the 2 party system is finished. We all know Illinois is going to go to Obama. A vote for Gary Johnson can make a real difference in this country. Check it out: http://www.GaryJohnson2012.com

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AUSPICIOUS !

8:08 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

@ Joe Bloe W, are you emily or emily husband?
Get a mind of your own, it's helpful in daily life....Just sayin

God Bless You

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mejaneyoucheetah

9:58 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

To CB Smith, get a brain Honey Bear. Saw your account was suspended, and rightfully so!
Just tellin........

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AUSPICIOUS !

6:06 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

you must have a thing for me? what are you talkin about lady/man ?

i am starting to wander about people on here...... but i will be your Honey bear if you like...... : )) and what are you telling ? and who are you in a different name? Vera perhaps ?

Pro Life Crusader +

9:10 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

People say Romney is a flip flopper.How about Obama.When The liar Obama was Senator and first became President , he was Pro Life, against same sex marriage and for immigration enforcement. Now that he is running for re election and he seen he needs the votes , what does he do? Becomes a believer in abortion(murder) , same sex marriage and then the dream act! It's all about votes and he would saying anything to get them! Hypocrite he is!

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Emily

12:43 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Obama was never pro-life. Not as a Senator nor ever as President.

AUSPICIOUS !

9:34 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Joe wil and son

are you a man or woman. i have knomn women name Jo too, just askin...

cause your really petty like a woman...
don't forget to do a grammer check LOL

God Bless you for all eternity, seriously

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Emily

10:00 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Petty like a woman? That's nice.

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AUSPICIOUS !

5:32 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

And true !! yes petty like you women can be.... i still like you tho LOL

BUTCH

9:56 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Oh my Karl how mean and nasty Obama is! The alternative universe complaining the president is looking presidential while Twit wants to put Fema out of bizness!
Ann business is what this election is all about,"the corp are people too my friend' CITIZENS UNITED can now if there are truly Judges on every level willing to hold the 12,000 corp Twit shares a Cayman Island apartment with and the other Global corp liable and accountable for their shoddy sh*t and poisonous toxins and most important BILLIONS OF LEGAL and in the case of TWIT ILLEGAL drug and vice money they have saturated the election with.
With a Pres Johnson and or Stein or any Indep. would a appointment get out of committee?
Karl Bonzell is not as perverted as DICK MORRIS the hooker NEO CON toe sucker on Fox but is as credible, Karl and Vera sorry I have 8 pages full of same sex-pedophile every imaginable form of of kinky hypocrite sex and crimes against innocents and with animals all of them GOP-TPARTY CHRISTIAN CHARLATAN COALITION officials Judges, anti abortion clergy, Catholic and Prody alike and we have not even gotten into the cult magic under wear and BINDERS full of women (and in the case of Glenn Beck rabbits) how incredible the loss of memory has affected so many but praise the Lord not the Americans only the MURKANS who take their( pablum) Hillbilly heroin and will put the gangsters and looters back1
Don't u luv these transsexuals passing themselves off as reasonable, civil and feminine!

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Russ

10:45 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

yea,
I wonder how the people dealing with the frankenstorm on the East coast feel about Romneys position on FEMA. Just leave it to the individual states or better yet the private sector.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/28/mitt-romney-fema_n_2036198.html?ref=topbar
I am sure as the damage piles up, Romney will pretend he never had a FEMA destroying thought in his life.

BUTCH

10:20 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

The point is the log cabin ( gay republicans) GOP TPARTY should be Obama's biggest boosters he has legitimized their alternative life style and what does he get from them more blatant lies from pathological made in China tax dodgers shameless.

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BUTCH

10:51 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

How about the story of LYIN Ryan-Robme Budget which the non gay Bishops and nuns of the church have called immoral and Satanic probably because Ryan is a follower of a atheist Ayn Rand and now because their mouths are moving just found out and denied it and that he is regular at the ATLAS society the atheist objectiveness think tank.
Yesterday on a slow news day besides the coming deluge, the LYIN SACK of TWIT said" he saved CHRYSLER from bankruptcy" Nothing this felon has done surpasses his PRO WAR demonstrating and then going off to fight the battle of the left bank in his magic underwear!

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BUTCH

11:05 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Twit has lost his hearing, reporters have been asking him about his statement, why don;t they ask Christie and the other log cabin governors on the East coast how they would manage meeting the deluge head on without Fed Emergency asstets?

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BUTCH

11:39 am on Monday, October 29, 2012

Twit also was and is deaf and dumb like the entire GOP-TPARTY on the lowest barometer reading in history in NY the warmest winter-spring ocean temperature in history, famine drought in the bread basket, lowest water levels in the rivers and great Lakes,Petro Chem funding of liars looters and thieves -ROBME off shore Chinese Oil-drilling --Cheney -KOCH BROS Fracking destroying aquifers these will all become even with harlot Clear channel (Bain) and Fox subjects that will be debated by but not by the bought and sold prostitute candidate the POTUS said a single sentence on he believes it is a threat but then we got into silly KARL VERA type mickey mouse hot buttons which are a bonus for them to cut the legs off of the safety net.

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Tired of the B.S.

12:45 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

The award for the biggest troll on Patch goes to......Chuck Ingwersen!
Look at what is being discussed(argued about)here. It is the same argument as the last one from Biden Smiles. It has the same people saying the same stuff although somebody has a new name, no doubt due to being banned from posting with the old name.
When will Chuck just draw a true "Sunday Comic"? One that is actually funny instead of one that is only drawn for it's ability to stir up negative comments.
I was just as guilty as the rest of you for responding to the head troll but no more.
There are more important things to worry about, like yet another business shut down on Cicero Ave. last week and the city planning on spending $80,000 to beautify a retention pond.
So congratulations Chuck Ingwersen and the editors of Patch, you have now become bigger trolls than Vera, Butch, Ivent, or whatever other names that may have been used. You need to ban yourselves from the Patch for creating a hostile environment on your own website.

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Pro Life Crusader +

1:22 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

People that believe in and support abortion(murder) lose that right to say "Amen"

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Mike F.

1:57 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Vera, that's funny. God didn't smite me yesterday for saying "Amen" when I attended 12PM Mass at St. Alexander in Palos Heights. You're about as Christian as Judas Iscariot.

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Logansdad

2:40 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

People that believe in and support murder aka capital punishment aka the death penalty lose that right to say "Amen"

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Ellie

6:17 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Vera, I think people who use terrible grammar shouldn't participate in comment threads, but you're not going anywhere, so I'm going to say "Amen!" all I like.
Amen!
Amen!
Amen!
And if you were capable of any common sense at all, you'd realize that supporting Planned Parenthood, comprehensive sex education, and the availability of birth control is what being pro-life is all about, not supporting a selfish, greedy man with daddy issues who wants to be President as a notch on his bedpost, not because he wants to make the country a better place.

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Pro Life Crusader +

8:53 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

CB are you Forrest Gump? You don't make any point what I should be serious about!

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Chuck Ingwersen

10:52 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

To: Tired of the B.S.

I don’t understand why I’m a “troll” for attempting to find the humor in national politics and for poking fun at politicians (something editorial cartoonists have been doing for decades). My motives don’t go much further than trying to prompt a laugh or a smile.

Sure, I enjoy seeing my cartoons spark an exchange of views. But it does disturb me when the exchanges become nasty. I think the nastiness generated by a relatively small number of people has little to do with my cartoons and much more to do with how divided this country has become. I certainly am not “creating a hostile environment.” The hostility is coming from a small percentage of people who feel compelled to push their own ideology upon others.

I’ve drawn plenty of cartoons that have nothing to do with politics, and I’ll continue to do so. But with the election so close at hand and with the campaigns providing so much fodder for material, it’s a tough subject for any editorial cartoonist to ignore.

Above all, I would urge everyone to have more of a sense of humor when it comes to my (admittedly) silly cartoons. We all need to smile more than ever these days!

Thanks for reading.

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Russ

11:52 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012

@ Chuck Ingerwersen,
well said,I think your cartoons are brilliant.
Keep up the good work.

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Tired of the B.S.

12:19 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Chuck,
Here is why you and the Patch are trolls.
You post comics to get a certain response, a response that will pit one side against another. The fact that this comic has generated the exact same response as the last comic that you did and the fact that the Patch continues this thread even though none of the comments have anything to do with the comic shows that you both want this to happen, in other words, trolling.
If the Patch did not want this to go on, the thread could be ended. There are currently over 250 posts and only a handful reference your comic.
So, whether intentional or not, the fact is that your comics do create a hostile environment on this website and the Patch is allowing it to continue....otherwise known as trolling.

Pro Life Crusader +

2:15 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Mike then you aren't listening to the mass! Not Christian? How are you to say? Surely not God.

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Mike F.

2:24 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

A "Christian" is one who acts like Christ. "Love one another as I have loved you." I learned that in Vacation Bible School as a kid. You have done nothing but preach HATE.

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Mike F.

2:27 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

If Jesus Himself came to you today, you'd nail him to a cross for providing free healthcare and preaching love for all humanity because he doesn't agree with your personal views.

Pro Life Crusader +

2:41 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Preach hate? Jesus doesn't agree with with me? I agree with Jesus on everthing! I don't hate free health care, but not for abortion. Use some logic already. I don't hate anyone , but I do pray and condem abortion and everything it stands for. Mile I suppose your Church believes in abortion then and says welcome with open arms, we love you.

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Tim

2:52 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Abortion(induced miscarriage) was practiced at the exact same time the bible was written, yet in the entire book a punishment is not mentioned a single time.

In fact, the exact opposite is true. The bible specifically assigns 'value' to people according to their age. newborns less than one month old are assigned no value at all.
Leviticus 27:6
(this same verse also give more 'monetary value' to men, than women, but that is a whole other conversation.)

Where you are getting this idea from is curious, because it certainly isn't coming form the bible that your beliefs are supposed to be based on.

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Mike F.

3:20 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Remind us of your views on gays. Oh wait, we already know, homophobe.

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Pro Life Crusader +

3:27 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Mike I see your response is the same as all the other liberals! A person or religious group that is against same sex marriage either don't like gays or are homophobic? Get a life with your convoluted thinking already.

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AUSPICIOUS !

5:35 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Vera

are you serious?

do you think at all before you click submit ?

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Ellie

6:20 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Find the place in the Bible where Jesus talked about gay marriage and/or abortion, and I'll quit having sex. Nope, he said nada about those things, but he SURE did get mad at people who didn't care for the poor. Jesus would vote for the President and you know it.

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Pro Life Crusader +

7:20 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Emily I'll make it simple for you on translating two meanings from the great bible! Abortion="Thou shalt not kill" and one man , one women = one flesh , thus no same sex marriage! Now let's hear you're true expertise as a trained theologian. Plus Jesus would try and convert Odumba away from abortion and if that failed Jesus would condem him and not vote for him !

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7:47 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

CB and your point is about me being serious?

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AUSPICIOUS !

8:21 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

uhhhh yes

why are you repeating my question to you vera ?
Answer it !!! duhhhhhhhh

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Pro Life Crusader +

9:06 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Emily should I heed to your religion? The way you mince your words about religion I sense you aren't Catholic? I respect that each had their own religion , but I don't have to believe in them. Sound fair to you?

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Will Joseph

11:20 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
- Mahatma Gandhi

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8:45 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Will I believe the statement is for the sinners of their religion and don't follow their faith as they should! Case in point!

Abortion is one such injustice that Gandhi felt very strongly about.

In fact, Gandhi is quoted as saying:

“It seems to me as clear as daylight that abortion would be a crime.”

While the abortion industry has put a great deal of effort into portraying pro-life advocates as being violent and hateful, the vast majority of pro-lifers are most interested in showing genuine love and compassion.

Read more: Mahatma Gandhi's Views On Abortion - Abortion Facts http://www.whyprolife.com/mahatma-gandhis-views-on-abortion/#ixzz2An0SGQ3o

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Emily

8:48 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Vera - you do not respect that people have a religion different than yours. If you did, you would be trying to impose laws on everyone based on your beliefs.

Either you just can't understand or you just get off on circle jerking the conversation.

Pro Life Crusader +

3:03 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Tim I suggest you consult a theologian for the proper answer! The bible is very complex and not one lay person here is going to be able to fully explain the bible! We do and think as we are taught by our relugious leaders and God. Just like any profession , if we have a problem or have a question we contact a professional in their field. Thus the bible speak to a priest or a theologian for the best possible answer.

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Tim

3:54 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

This verse was given to me by a theologian when we were having a friendly discussion about abortion. He liked to point out the fact that NOWHERE in the bible is abortion even mentioned. He was saddened how people will twist the word of his god for nothing but political purposes, and wishes it would stop. This is the elephant in the room for those in certain sects of Christianity.

I think if you ever actually talked to a theologian, you would understand that they are usually not going to come down on your 'interpretive' readings of your belief system.

It's too complicated? Seems odd that they wouldn't have been more exact about it, in the book that is supposed to be the word of god. Or maybe the lack of it being in there at all, means that what you are claiming is not actually part of the teachings of christ.

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Pro Life Crusader +

4:11 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

So Tim so what you are saying is this so called theologian told you , is that the bible doesn't condem abortion or the Catholic Church shouldn't try to abolish it or teach it's a sin and immoral? Is this person a Roman Catholic theologian?

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Tim

4:54 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Now you are starting to get it.
Feel free to post the verse in the bible that condemns abortion.
Keeping in mind the already referenced verse that assigns no value to a human life until 1 month old(also with more value given to males than females). Your own bible says that a woman is worth less than a man. Do you believe that too?

You don't need to talk to any church leader, you don't need to talk to any priest or congregation member. All you need to do is READ THE BIBLE. You post here enough that everyone knows that you are able to read, so what's stopping you? Surely you have a bible nearby that you can read? Because I do.

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Pro Life Crusader +

5:15 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

The bible does make a clear statement about abortion in the great Holy Bible with four powerful words from God"thou shall not kill" That's plain and simple words for me or anyone else with religious convictions.

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Pro Life Crusader +

5:32 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

So Tim does your so called priest think we shouldn't wage war on abortion or it isn't accepted by your church as murder?

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Bob Laird

7:36 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

read the bible about 30 years ago. at the time it wasn't for the usual reasons, but that's another story. however, in thise case, vera/pro life is correct, it does say thou shalt not kill. I don't take a stand on either side on this, there are exceptions either way, but I didn't like it when tim said that the bible didn't condemn it. Whether you believe in creation or evolution just read the ten commandments. if people lived their lives by those simple rules (thou shalt not kill,steal, lie,etc) we'd all be way better off. sorry, didn't mean to go off on a tangent like some others we know. been following the posts, not wanting to get involved, but I had to.

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Pro Life Crusader +

7:42 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Bob Laird very well said and thank you.

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Tim

7:45 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Well, its a good thing that the bible doesn't consider a life until the child is one month old.
Nothing at all about abortion being 'evil' or as 'killing', but there is a passage that sets the fine for an unwanted abortion caused by an assault. No punishment at all if it is intentional. Got that? NO PUNISHMENT AT ALL IF THE ABORTION IS INTENTIONAL.

So no, there is no passage in the bible that states that abortion is wrong, and identifying 'thou shalt not kill' is not a valid response when it is not considered a life until one month after birth.

You will either have to admit that your bible contradicts itself(which would mean ALL of it is invalid), or your church leaders are telling you something that is not in the bible at all, and using it for political purposes.

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Emily

8:41 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

The bible is based on one religion and therefore you shouldn't impose your beliefs on others.

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8:44 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Tim we can go back and forth until we are blue in the face if abortion is murder , which it actually is. The way your thinking is too, how do explain the Priest that preach to us abortion is murder of a baby. So does Archbishop Colon of the Joliet Archdiocese,when he prays the rosary at planned PPH with us. How about the Pope too who preaches abortion is murder of a baby as well! Let me guess they all are wrong and they don't know how to interpret the bible. Better yet Tim here is the phone number +390669883712 of the Vatican and you can speak to the real theologian experts so they can set the record straight for you about the bible and the real meanings for you to understand.

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Walt Hines

8:45 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Tim is correct! I just finished reading the exact quotation that Tim speaks of.

With permission from my sister and to make a long story short my nephew committed suicide after being raped by a Catholic Priest for years. There was 24 children who had their souls raped on a daily basis and all the church did was cover this up. This priest was caught and is now in prison but only after years spent in a court room and having the living children (now adults) relive this nightmare. The church paid a hefty settlement which meant nothing after what they did to these children and their families.
I use to go to a Catholic church, CCD and alter boy and not once did we read from the bible it was the scriptures which I find to be different from what I have read in the bible.

FYI Vera 24 children raped, 18 boys, 6 girls and 4 who became pregnant. They were given abortions courtesy of the Catholic church. If the church would agree to an FOIA you could read the 800+ pages of court transcripts that each living survivor gave, along with the admission that the church covered it up. There were 4 boys who weren't there and one was my nephew who took his own life so the priest wouldn't kill his parents for telling. ( the priest threatened to kill his parents if he told). The devil walks the earth!!!!!!!!!!

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Pro Life Crusader +

8:58 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Walt the point of your story is?

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Walt Hines

9:11 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Really Vera, are you high?

The same people preaching about abortions and killing innocent children are the same people raping them and killing their souls. What a bunch of hypocrites! But they feel no wrong doing, why, because according to the writings in the bible this is not a sin. Maybe this is why the church doesn't want the bible taught but the scriptures which they have control over.
Ever wonder the real reason they don't agree with birth control?

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Pro Life Crusader +

9:37 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Walt its old news about the Priest already! I hope they are put in prison , but that's the only thing people use these days to condem the Catholic religion. I hope things changed and those are punished, but I will never waver from my faith! Let's see what happens to the Boy Scouts and their cover of molestation for over fifty years! Let's see if people raise a big issue now as much they do about the Priest! Let's see if parents keep their children out of the BSA!!!

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Stones

9:53 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Vera, with your logic the Boy Scouts is old news too. People who criticize the Church for the long history of molestation and the cover-up feel exactly the same way about the Scouts. we are anti-child rape and stealing of their innocence and the horrible cover-up meant only to protect their organization. Not once did they consider the children or do anything to protect them.

What these people did was commit unspeakable horrors that can not be forgiven. Your God, which if he truly exists, should have a very special place in Hell for the worst of the worst. And BTW, your God is the same one for the rest of us. You do realize we all worship the same God right? Us Catholics don't have the God market cornered.

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Walt Hines

9:57 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Vera it isn't old news as there's a case being investigated right now. This happens all too often and could all stop if the Vatican would take responsibility. No ones asking you to forgo your faith, I also have faith and it lies in our creator himself.

We do have something in common, I also have t-shirt. Mine has a picture of the priest that raped my nephew on the front and on the back is the cardinal and bishop that knew about this and allowed it to happen. I went to the abortion protest in Plainfield and stood on the corner with my shirt and signs of the priest. I had a few of the abortion people come over and ask what happened, once I told them they then put their signs down and left. I walk up and down the side walks outside of churches where I know the quilty are and many people have left those churches. They have moved the cardinal around so many times that they have actually transferred him out of state, they should transfer him to hell but that's where God will send him.

After the settlement and all attorneys fees were paid the remainder was donated to SNAP. My sister will forever be changed. The devil walks the earth!!!!

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Pro Life Crusader +

11:14 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Emily yes there is one bible and my beliefs come from the good book! So what's your point?

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Emily

8:43 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

The point is you can't expect other people to live by your religious beliefs. That's the point.

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Pro Life Crusader +

9:50 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Emily its a two way street! We/I don't need the beliefs of non believers, atheist and the government cramming their beliefs down our throats either!!!

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Emily

9:54 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Government Mandated Religion is what you want though. If you don't want an abortion Vera, don't have one. Live by your own 'morals and beliefs' and leave the rest of us to our own.

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Pro Life Crusader +

9:57 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Emily you are correct, the bible is based on one religion. It's called Catholicism!!!

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Pro Life Crusader +

10:04 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Emily its not just my relgion! It's a majority of all Christian faiths that want to abolish abortion and they are getting tired of the government trying to force their ways down their/our throats .

BUTCH

3:27 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Well said BS and the other fellow traveler CITIZENS UNITED!
UP YERS -UP THE REBELS and heroes at BAINPORT, WHEN climate change reaches hell we will stop talkin about the horrific situation of Senata, where Bain RED ARMY FLAG WAVERS and the slickster Machiavelli manipulator pi**es on the same people he pretends to be concerned about is exposed as 100% fraud, oh my! we should now stop because u are not informed enough and or worried that a few recognition cords have been scored on the thread ?
How about 12 BINDER 99 cents a hr coolies living in a concentration camp dorm behind razor wire to keep the other coolies out boring sh*t eh,
How about the TPARTY wannabe DECIDER in chief has made almost 800 million this year at Senata alone he is a friggin vampire and welfare Queen who wants these tax payer bill of rights to keep the nitwits like u stupid!
HE as governor of Mass put fees on the Blind, mental patients, plumbers,barbers, hair dressers and ice skaters TB patients not Corporations for starters but not a single point raise on CAPITAL GAINS! TWIT THE JOB CREATOR is a looter never created or saved a rel job on this side of the Pacific, anyone as interested as u raises a flag u can't be a investor in his seeing eye dog bind trusts or a simpleton guinea pig who is a investor in a 401K and falls for the false equivalence BS-BS

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BUTCH

5:29 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

VOTE GREEN for MTRO SAN DIST #46-7-48 at least everyone who wants to send a message to the DEMOPUBS monopoly can do it in a meaningful way!

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BUTCH

5:34 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

nit wit Tim is a spiritualist theologian not a friggin imposter like u?

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AUSPICIOUS !

6:02 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

We are all adults, it's not Chuck ingwersen and the editors fault. That there are so many Hateful ,hurting, judgemental oh and mentally unstable people (he he) on this forum speaking any and everything that comes to mind.

For those of you who have sent me negative messages this is for you on next line.

In order for you to insult me, I would first have to value your opinion...........

You can choose to hate or you can choose to love
Get inspired or be depressed
Ace a test or flunk a class
Make babies or make art
Speak the truth or lie and cheat
Dance on tables or sit in the corner

Life is Divine chaos, Embrace it
Forgive yourself and each other
BREATHE.
And enjoy the ride...............

It's all up to YOU !

Peace, Love and Blessings, Amen !

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BUTCH

9:34 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

WARNING If u are Bla which is code for guess who be careful on using a PROVINCIAL BALLOT and never mail it in,
I believe Ralph REED and PAT ROBERTSON are the theologians TURD BLOSSOM aka VERA his-her real name is getting his-her biblical misinfo from he -she is not even a good pretender in his-her Catholicism.
If u are a member of the UAW or anyone who lost their home by foreclosure iu can thank LYIN RYAN and the brilliant JOHN Paulson who is a Billionaire because he is the beneficiary on every insurance on FORECLOSURES policy's ever written, lyin and Robme of course are getting their million pieces of silver from the VERMIN that BS and the other whiners say we cannot discuss,
This election is not about DEM or REP both are led by serpents and creeps what is at stake is your freedom which the Corporatists on the Supreme Court are determined to make u a second and third class citizen they are the legal beagles on the looting of America by the the friends of ROBME and RYAN who led the fight to deny the bail out of the Auto industry and caused Delphi to belly up.
Their co conspirators bought Delphi for less than 70 cents a share Twit acquired a major interest made almost a 100 million on the assets and theft of the pensions of the workers they forced the government after the bail out to buy their shares for $22 a share if they did not the vehicles would not have steering wheels, these are the scum u are suppose to gloss over who do not do these things!.

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BUTCH

10:03 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

Walt as a CATHOLIC School boy for 12 years I can tell a few stories on pred's well one in particular, in Ireland a contingent of dwindling nuns left recently after suffering years of rape and torture by priests who have been in hiding and hell since they left ,if there were no Kenyan or Polish priests there would be no priests in the emerald isle and despite the revolting practices the government said more people identify as CATHOLIC since the famine.
The awful truth on the famine there were only a few priests that did anything to help their starving flocks, only one or two died of starvation, the QUAKERS, CHOCTAW Indians and ABE LINCOLN did more than the CHURCH of ROME or England combined to aid the Irish the Christian charlatan coalition are a very interesting story did u ever see the movie Blood DIAMOND well the REV PAT ROBERTSON and the infamous CHAS TAYLOR a Liberian killer who is the creator of the children's army share a lot of BOOD Diamond's u have no idea how religion has been taken over by the worst of the humanoid ZIONIST Jews, TPARTY largely PRODY and CATHOLIC clergy predators alike they are the fuel of disinformation that gets us to talk nonsense rather than following the MONEY!

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Pro Life Crusader +

11:41 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

If anyone is interested ! I'll be in the area of the Bolingbrook post office Saturday handing out pro life and religious freedom signs.

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Walt Hines

5:57 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Vera we"ll be there! I'm bringing the local chapter of SNAP with me! I'd really like for you to check out our shirts and I'm sure you're going to be impressed with our signs, some take 2 people to hold!!

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Pro Life Crusader +

8:48 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Walt that would be a good idea! We can stop the abuse of children and abortion(murder).

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anthony

9:42 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Here is the funny part If the masses want a pro life state they have to support a gay marriage state, a legal pot state and a seperate but equal race states or counties.That is if the majority dictates such....
Jesus talk is lost on any who are not Christian especially those of jewish ancestory .. The GOP will come to grips with this realization and the adapt or die...

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Will Joseph

11:08 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Vera:

Sources indicated no one is interested and nobody cares

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5:54 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Can i come an pray for you vera ? about those voices that are telling you to specifically change your name on patch repeatedly?

Just askin.......

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mejaneyoucheetah

9:48 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

@ Honey Bear Here, I mean C B Smith, lol
Just tellin....

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AUSPICIOUS !

5:19 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

You can call me Honey or Mr. C B.
are you trying to ask me for a date ?

Just askin......

Tired of the B.S.

9:56 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

This Sunday Comic is a picture of Romney and Obama trick or treating.
There are now about 200 post about anything but what the comic is, most of them from just a couple of people arguing about abortion and religion. The same argument they had last week.
If the Patch is not trolling, they would end this thread.

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Pro Life Crusader +

10:27 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

9:52am Oct 30
From the WaPo, by a thoughtful conservative writer and Wheaton College grad, Michael Gerson:

"Obama’s largest achievement turned out to be a self-indictment. He has not shown the leadership skills or the inclination to create consensus around large issues. The problem is that large issues — avoiding the fiscal cliff, reforming the tax code, making entitlement commitments more sustainable — are coming. Either Obama will have to become an entirely different type of leader — or America needs a new one."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michael-gerson-obamas-discrediting-victory/2012/10/29/df50779c-21e8-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story.html
Obama’s discrediting victory
www.washingtonpost.com
One choice may bring the president down.

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Pro Life Crusader +

11:22 am on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

I know this is a different topic , but it's very important to all of us in Illinois! This is another Patch article!

Pension Foes Allied Against Constitutional Amendment

Vote NO!!!!!!!!!

Say hell NO to the Politicians ,State and Cities/Towns that caused this mess in the first place!!!

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BUTCH

12:03 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

who said," We cannot afford disaster aid the States must do more, the States are broke," yer boss TURD BLOSSOM THE lyin sack of TWIT a week apart,
TURD BLOSSOM THE other PATHOLOGICAL Ayn Ryan is the leader of the obstructionists to make OBAMA a one term President he is a traitor to his town, State and the USA, The American people realize now why GOP TPARTY LOOTERS like Helliburton ARE NOT WHO U NEED WHEN THE LIGHTS GO OUT AFTER they electrocute Marines in the showers, one of the reasons Bush and the GOP were sent packing in 08 was Katrina, the same TURD BLOSSOMS who surround the pathological s the usual suspects of looters and Vampire Commie Capitalists whose idea of good GOVERNMENT is it does not work.

BUTCH

12:13 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

What is wrong with Conservative thoughtful yakety yuk is they become TPARTY traitors or they become thoughtful libertarians WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING unfortunately what is being passed off in modern GOP TPARTY politics is not thoughtful, conservative or good for America for the MURKANS who are looters amazing story about JEEP moving to China the partner of the Red Army is going to fight for Murkan jobs, they never let the truth get in the way of a lying story, JEEP went on the record as saying this man is a liar and deceiver in chief he makes a good VAMPIRE and COMMIE CAPITALIST and TURD BLOSSOM are a credit to the predators and Charlatans

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Pro Life Crusader +

2:51 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

There are approx. 1.3 million abortions(murder) per year in the U.S. So that gives me 1.3 million reasons to not vote for Obama. Plus there will never be any good reasons to vote for him then.

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BUTCH

4:02 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

TURD BLOSSOM, I have only a few dozen reasons not to vote for ROBME, when he was Gover of Mass ONE of his first acts was to DEREG PHARMACEUTICALS one of the company's NCC had combined and co mingled Chinese toothpaste and their recipe to create a BAIN Steroid to be used by Dr's and Chiropractors on back pain, since Robme left Mass the company had been on a watch list for safety violations and lax regulation which newly elected GOP SEN BROWN lobbied for more freedom and for NCC to do their own in house internal inspections which the now Dem governor approved that was then and now recent inspections turned up nothing but safety and health inspections the Steroid which has killed just 25 patients and put 300 more into hospitals with meningitis which must be affecting a lot more TPARTY nitwits than has been reported since it attacks the brain.

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AUSPICIOUS !

5:27 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Abortion in the Bible
Respect for Life: .
Many passages teach us not to deliberately kill innocent human beings. Please read Exodus 23:7; Proverbs 6:16,17;
Revelation 21:8; 22:15; Matthew 15:19,20; and Romans 13:8-10. In addition, please consider these specific passages.
Psa. 106:37,38 -- Israel was polluted with blood because the people shed the innocent blood of their "sons and daughters." But unborn babies are "sons and daughters." What then is the condition of our land when over 25 million "sons and daughters" have been legally killed?
Matthew 2:16 -- Herod is considered wicked because he slew the male children in Bethlehem. Luke 2:12,16 calls such children "babes." But Luke 1:41,44 also calls unborn children "babes," so how can it be acceptable to kill them?
Hosea 13:16; 2 Kings 8:12 -- When children or infants are dashed to pieces, it is a great tragedy to any nation. Yet unborn babies are children or infants, and in our nation they are dashed to pieces by the millions!
Acts 7:19; Ex. 1:16-18 -- Pharaoh commanded that Israelite "sons" or "men children" be killed as soon as they were born. But these same terms are used for unborn babies. Would it have been acceptable for Pharaoh to have had abortions performed to kill the babies? Is it any less wicked if people today do it?
Deuteronomy 27:25 -- "Cursed be he that taketh a bribe to slay an innocent person." What clearer description could be given for people who operate abortion clinics?

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Irish Ross

5:27 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

What the hell have I been reading here?

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BUTCH

9:35 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

have a Guinness or Smithwick and join in if u dare?
Are u a MURKAN PRO RED ARMY T PARTY traitor
or PRO AMERICAN ?

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5:28 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Abortion is wrong, therefore, because it is a failure to love, appreciate, and care for a human baby. It is also wrong because it constitutes the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. When people defend abortion, their arguments should always be evaluated in light of the fact that the unborn baby is a human being, a separate individual from its mother. Therefore, deliberately killing it would be just as wrong as killing any other innocent human being. What should a woman do if she has aborted a baby and now realizes she did wrong? She does not need to spend the rest of her life with the burden of unforgiven guilt. The Bible says abortion is wrong, but it also offers a source of true forgiveness through the blood of Jesus Christ. God will forgive if we will come to Him according to His conditions. Read and obey these passages: Rom. 1:16; 6:3,4; 10:9,10; Mark 16:16; Acts 17:30; 2:38; 22:16.

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AUSPICIOUS !

5:31 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

This is a true story that makes me weak
The tiny hand of a foetus reaches out from a mother's womb to clasp a surgeon's healing finger. It is, by the way, 21 weeks old, an age at which it could still be legally aborted. The tiny hand in the picture above belongs to a baby which is due to be born on December 28. It was taken during an operation in America recently. Paul Harris reports on a medical development in the control of the effects of spina bifida ... and on a picture which will reverberate through the on-going abortion debate

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5:32 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

The baby is literally hanging on for life. For this is one of the most remarkable photographs taken in medicine and a record of one of the world's most extraordinary operations.

It shows a 21-week-old foetus in its mother's womb, about to undergo a spine operation designed to save it from serious brain damage.

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AUSPICIOUS !

5:35 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

It shows a 21-week-old foetus in its mother's womb, about to undergo a spine operation designed to save it from serious brain damage.

The surgery was carried out entirely through the tiny slit visible in the wall of the womb and the `patient' is believed to be the youngest to undergo it.

At that age the mother could have chosen to have the foetus aborted. Her decision not to, however, led to an astonishing test not just of medical technology, but of faith.

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AUSPICIOUS !

5:39 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

I actually agree with you on Abortion (vera), I am torn when pregancy is a result from rape .... And in a situation where a mother may loose her life or save her life as a result of an abortoin should be her choice, either way a life will be lost.....

Just my 2 cents on the issue....

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AUSPICIOUS !

5:55 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

the picture of the 21 week old foetus can be seen if you click on my profile

God Bless America !

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AUSPICIOUS !

6:12 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Although i donot believe in abortion, i am still more for President Obama based on many of his other visions.....

PLEASE DONT WAIT, TO cast your EARLY VOTE FOR OBAMA.

MOST VILLAGE HALLS ARE OPEN 7:30am til 4:30 p.m. till Nov.2nd,

call your local village to find out your village time.

God Bless America !!!

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6:29 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Join this conversation on #MSNBC2012
Listen to WHY President Obama has not succeeded in may efforts and then judge for your self, the bottom line is rism.......

While Obama and I were believing—on Inauguration Day 2009, say—that things would be different, key Republicans were meeting in a restaurant not far from the very mall where the celebrations had taken place that day. They agreed, wrote Robert Draper in his book Do Not Ask What Good We Do, that very night to oppose Obama with all they had. Within the month, the Tea Party movement was born, and compromise with Obama became the moral equivalent of shaking hands with the devil.

Join the conversation on twitter #MSNBC2012

GBA !!!!!!!

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AUSPICIOUS !

6:31 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

The particulars of the ongoing opposition are well-known enough that I needn’t rehearse them all. Suffice it to say that the GOP of this Congress set records on Senate filibusters real and threatened, and en bloc (or almost en bloc) no votes. There’s never been a Congress like these past two, especially since the GOP took over the House.

Obama has tried from the start. The stimulus bill was about 38 percent tax cuts. You’d think Republicans might have gone for that. The individual mandate came from the Heritage Foundation. He cut payroll taxes (Republicans did end support for that, but only after the ludicrousness of their initial opposition to a tax cut became too much to endure). And more. But they said no every step of the way—even breaking from the precedent of Congress raising the debt limit more than 70 times since the 1940s. Now it was deemed acceptable to tie that increase to other matters and even, for the first time in history, to filibuster it

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AUSPICIOUS !

6:34 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

No, no, no, no, no. And then, come 2012, they turn around and say, “See? Obama failed to unite this country.” They say it’s because he pursued a hard-left agenda, but that’s not true and they know it’s not true. What they know to be true is that most centrist voters will believe them, because the mood in Washington is still toxic and the president promised to fix that, by cracky.

Hostage-taking is one of the oldest tricks in the ideological book, and our system of government permits it.

All of that, we’ve known. But now comes the new twist. Now Romney gets to come in and say, “I will be a conciliator.” Perversely, there is a potential grain of truth to the claim, but only because Democrats in opposition don’t behave in the Leninist fashion that Republicans do. (I have demonstrated this numerically—41 percent of congressional Democrats supported George W. Bush on his four major legislative initiatives, while 6 percent of Republicans backed Obama on his top four). But bear in mind it’s going to be a very strange definition of “conciliation.” What Republicans generally mean by “working across the aisle” is terrifying just enough Democrats from red states and districts into supporting their initiatives and destroying them if they fail to, like the old ads from 2002 that impugned the patriotism of Georgia Sen. Max Cleland, who left three limbs in Vietnam but opposed Bush’s war in Iraq.

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AUSPICIOUS !

6:38 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

And the final note that takes us into full surrealism. Republicans know very well that Obama can’t say any of this during election time because he’d sound “whiny” and will be admitting “failure” at the task of uniting the country. This is really the Ministry of Reality Suppression at work, and why I wish Mr. Orwell were around to see it.
He’d know it well, because it is, in fact, a very communist (small c) mindset, about which Orwell wrote in the Spanish context if not others: act obstreperously and disruptively, create conditions that make it impossible for the bourgeois or reformist party to succeed, and then turn around and blame the reformist party for the resulting failures. And then sit back and laugh if the reformists try to point this out and attack them as weak. It’s one of the oldest tricks in the ideological book, and it’s hostage-taking, basically, and our system of government—especially the rules of the Senate, where a minority of 40 has the power of a majority—permits it.

Just sayin....

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AUSPICIOUS !

7:07 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

AUSPICIOUS !!

President Obama !

GBA

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Walt Hines

8:41 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Last comment on abortion, frankly it has been a part of society and as long as humans can reproduce it will always be a part of society. Top surrogate Former Sen Norm Coleman told voters in Ohio Monday that Roe vs Wade is not in danger of being overturned.

Why on Gods green Earth would Romney tell the employees of Jeep that they were moving the Ohio plant to China? What kind of a snake in the grass does that to people? Being a victim of outsourcing myself this is devastating news. Some or maybe all of these people are the sole breadwinner and with news like this comes the questions of how am I going to put food on the table and keep the roof over my families head. God forbid they have a sick child and were worried about their healthcare. They have crossed the lines of even being descent human beings. The devil walks the earth in Romney's skin.
If this what the Republican party has become they can have their card back, It'll be in the mail tomorrow!

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Pro Life Crusader +

9:13 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Walt never say never about abortion not being overturned one day! God does wonders! Amen!!!

BUTCH

9:03 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Well Smitty i would add my 1 or 2 cents on the origins of the T PARTY.,Former Majority GOP leader Dick Armee became the CHF lobbyist of the RED ARMY he was with Bain on day one when the first Bain concen. camps came to Red china , then approached Grover Nordquist,Newt, Ryan and Cantor the other congressional traitors they informed the Christian charlatans BLOOD DIAMOND ROBERTSON, FRANK GRAHAM and Ralph REED on the plan of obstruction
VERA-TURD BLOSSOM only use abortion as a tool as u know his her theology is AYN RYAN objectivism not Catholicism yer inspirational bible passages are as meaningless to them as they are to Robertson and Reed none of them WOULD HAVE ever accepted the MORMON missionary Vampire capitalist if BIDEN was the candidate of the reformers as u stated correctly, the Kenyan made them Mormon believers and Red Army fellow travelers who murdered 100 million first born girls as did the Pharaohs 3,000 years ago in the same way as soon as they were born..

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BUTCH

9:23 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

u may have ended this thread with your expose on the Ministry of Reality and the Daryl issa and Jim DeMint and now Lindsey Graham the former moderate mow just another CRACKER all of them the model of OBSTREPEROUSLY,
HARRY REID was not up the task and should have eliminated the filibuster hold and gone reconciliation,, it would not have been a piece of cake but as smooth n as Spkr Pelosi House he had more to offer to Lieberman who really held America hostage as much as any BLUE DOG.
Obama's advisors in my opinion take a lot of blame for not realizing the extreme they would go and should had the AG on day 2 begin a investigation on the voting machines and gotten rid of them like the Irish did,
The purges and suppression that were part of the GOP MODUS SINCE 2000 have gone unpunished as have the creators of Wars for terror, drugs lies and the Zionist agenda.

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AUSPICIOUS !

7:53 am on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

I am with you Walt, it's all a Mass of Chaos. You have made many good points i suppose, and there are so many threads and depths of understanding it all

don't have time to respond in length, i have to get to work YES i work everyday after spending half of my life in the Military 18 years. But i am still not at retirement age so i work a full time job and volunteer on a part time gig..........

Working class family here : ) ) we are in that 47 percent too that Romney is speaking of ............

Pro Life Crusader +

9:55 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Do you believe everything the auto industry has to say! They could be lying too???

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Will Joseph

11:17 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

No, no, NO, Vera!

Those of us gathered here don't believe everything the AUTO INDUSTRY has to say!

We believe everything YOU have to say!

WAH-HA-HA-HA-HA! (OMG! I think I just peed my pants!)

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Chronicles of Bob

11:50 am on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Vera, what you say makes no sense. What do you mean they could be lying too? What romney did was misunderstand what he read in a blog and then spread inaccurate info. There were no lies until romney was corrected, but then said it again. To me that makes him more than a guy who made a mistake.

Pro Life Crusader +

12:29 am on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Sorry to hear that you wet your pants Will. Change your pantie liner then!!

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Pro Life Crusader +

11:16 am on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

This is God's wrath on the East coast with hurricane Sandy.

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Uncle Jesus

11:51 am on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

But he rewarded SF with a championship baseball team. Why?

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Mike F.

12:03 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Do you also picket military funerals with signs saying "GOD HATES (gay people)"? (I refuse to use the word those nutjobs use)

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Pro Life Crusader +

12:07 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Those sure aren't Catholics that protest at military funerals , however the ones that do are left wing liberal wack jobs.

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Mike F.

12:11 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Do you honestly believe hurricanes are created by God to punish us for our sins? Put down the Old Testament and pick up a science book.

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Stones

1:47 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Vera, it wasn't God's wrath. I'm surprised you're not tuned into the theory that President Obama's administration through the NOAA seeded clouds(you know, they've been doing it for 40 years) to create a superstorm to take the economy and Benghazai out of the news cycle securing his win on Tuesday. And here, I've been thinking you were paying attention. Quite a crafty guy to put that plan in motion, no wonder he's a great president.

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Pro Life Crusader +

2:03 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Stones I'll respect your belief it wasn't Gods wrath as long as your respect my belief it was! As far as a Obama being a great President is that a joke of the week? He's nothing but a piss ant and failed us all!

Chronicles of Bob

11:41 am on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

God dosent like the east coast? Espn will be very upset.

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BUTCH

12:09 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Turdie u can be counted on to out perform yer own stupidity! is this the official RED ARMY response to GOVERNOR CHRISTIE telling the universe what A GREAT JOB THE POTUS has done!.
Any American with a pulse who has read what passes for civility and human decency by the T PARTY will not be surprised by what u spit out what the American undecided want to know is where is silent ROBME on FEMA ?
He has been asked by the media hundreds of times in the past 24 HR'S amazing how he becomes deaf to real questions these are the same media that had been kissing his lyin arse up to the wrath of Baal,YAHWEH,the golden calf and all your god dang mythical gods u hypocrite murderer of baby girls.

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Pro Life Crusader +

12:14 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

BUTCH who is killing baby girls here!! Is your brain on a melt down again.

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BUTCH

12:41 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

The Red Army partners of the LYIN SACK OF TWIT as if u forgot WHICH IS contagious if u are PART OF THE CARTEL of GYPSIES TRAMPS THIEVES and the TPARTY.

BUTCH

12:20 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

TURD BLOSSOM the funeral protestors belong to the CHRISTIAN CHARLATAN COALITION the OFFICIAL TPARTY spiritual advisors that include the BIG LOOTER RALPH REED the one and only BLOOD DIAMOND partner of the Liberian tyrant CHAS TAYLOR Pat ROBERTSON the JIMMY SWAGGART lecherous televangelical and TED HAGGARD the anti gay preacher WITH a STABLE of MALE HOOKERS not as big as the CHENEY'S log cabin SON IN LAW but BIG

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Pro Life Crusader +

1:17 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

BUTCH don't be a dim witt!! The CHRISTIAN CHARLATAN COALITION has no affiliation with the Catholic Church! As far as China! They are killing the baby girls all on their own without the help of anyone else. China has being killing the baby girls for as long as they have been a Communist Country!

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BUTCH

3:20 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

TURD BLOSSOM, now u are getiing warm why would u and the wing nut Catholics aka pretender Catholics work for the partner of the Red Army who kill babies and imprison the catholic bishops and the flock well hint the same guy is also a partner of the Arena party of Salvador who kill Archbishops and nuns ahhh so!

drilling for oil and gas in Iran the enemy of our gallant ally another sin

Chronicles of Bob

2:46 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Im curious.... what sins is the east coast being punished for? I also find it funny how God delivers his vengeance according to time zones? Is the midwest next? Or will he strike the NFL s west coast cities next?

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Pro Life Crusader +

6:14 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Let's see COB why the East coast was targeted. The immoral and smutty program Jersey Shores amongst other crap. Also!!
NYC is the abortion capital of the world, according to Cardinal Dolan, where 40% of pregnancies end in abortion.  NY approved gay marriage.  NYC is the economic, cultural, social center of our country, and the continual depravity is peddled as normal.  God is not happy!!

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Bob B

10:38 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

You know who you are PLC+? Sadly, you are our version of the Taliban!

Pro Life Crusader +

3:04 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

COB God acts in mysterious ways and does his acts of vengeance at random! Should he confer with you when he decides to strike again!

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BUTCH

3:25 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Correction the perfect storm god is a female who confers thru the weather channel which explains the mysterious ways she only confers with magic underwear wearers who have binders full of her mysteries

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Pro Life Crusader +

4:32 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

BUTCH I'd rather wear my magic underwear than unlike you wearing laced panties!

Chronicles of Bob

3:12 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Yes, id like him to confer with me first when he strikes again. Oh and by the way, if i randomly ask you one day what town you are in, it will be for a totally different topic.

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Pro Life Crusader +

4:35 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

COB I's moving to Bolingbrook to get away from this high crime rate area for the more higher crime rate and its great gang affiliations! I wouldn't leave this area I'm at for the all lower housing value in your Village!

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BUTCH

5:57 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

right on Turdie u are a MORMON GODDESS and CATHOLIC predator who needs the Charlatans I fully understand u let those homo's who are crusaders against homo's also wear the magic drawers and then u hypocrites accuse the accusers of wearing the Larry Craig T PARTY favorite lingerie, running out of material Turdie U ARE ALSO running out of self absorbed fanatics that drink the pablum let's get to the chase we are not going to stop and play panty waist BS with scumbags we are on track to follow the money TURD BLOSSOM!
u friggin know nada think u can shred the constitution far too many of us are now Independents and will never allow the TWIT slavers and SHELDON traffickers to return us to the gilded age of the robber barons fewer MURKANS are drinking the KOOL AID TURDIE UP YERS!
TURD BLOSSOM after watching BAIN fly the CHINESE FLAG at Senata.

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Will Joseph

5:51 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Vera:

You TOTALLY need to read:

Matthew 7:5.

Irish Ross

8:47 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Back to the Sunday comic cartoon...Big Bird is thinking.."there they go..TRICK and TREAT...always winning, back and forth, and I pick up the droppings."

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Russ

11:03 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

I said this about 100 comments ago:
"yea,
I wonder how the people dealing with the frankenstorm on the East coast feel about Romneys position on FEMA. Just leave it to the individual states or better yet the private sector."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/28/mitt-romney-fema_n_2036198.html?ref=topbar
"I am sure as the damage piles up, Romney will pretend he never had a FEMA destroying thought in his life."
Guess what?
Mitt flops on FEMA he now says he would keep it:
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/30/mitt_flips_on_fema_now_would_keep_it/

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Chronicles of Bob

8:20 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Russ,
This isn't shocking... What is socking is that his supporters don't care.

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Russ

11:30 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Agreed COB,
these !8 points will help you understand who his supporters really are:
http://www.nationofchange.org/being-republican-2012-1351774843

Chronicles of Bob

8:18 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Vera,
So now you are telling us that God's wrath on the east coast was partly because of Snooki and the rest of Jersey Shore cast?
So based on the fact that Towers fell in that sin infested NYC, i'm assuming you believe that was Gods work. After all he works he mysterious ways.
You are very entertaining Vera.

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BUTCH

9:04 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012

"Not enough people have died what' was the hurry," said BROWNIE.
I discussed all the things we need with POTUS he sprung into action and gave us everything we asked right away," said Chris CHRISTIE
We have a strong partnership and cooperation with the Federal government and are doing what we are suppose to do" Chris Christie"
Too early to give any credit Said TWIT'S spokesman Kevin Madden

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BUTCH

9:28 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012

7 % of the 47 % are the extreme poor who pay no income tax, it also is the extreme robber barons who have no intention of doing so.
The vice Lord of MACAU and LAS Vegas has invested more than 100 million into the campaign of the flip flop flim flammer, this was after wasting 40 million on the failed NEWT GINGRICH campaign and his wife just poured 10 million more into the lyin sack's campaign which enabled him to say Obama is sending Jeep jobs to China and more outrageous lies that brought a outrageous response from CHRYSLER and GM which the wing nuts now call government motors, is the way they are do and always will be, the only way of dealing with lies are to tell the truth on EVERYTHING and anything that is hypocritical they are thin skinned when called on their lack of accuracy and facts and explains why they ignore fact checking.
CYNICAL and LIAR this shows what kind of gross character this person is" says GM Chrysler, the Media in OHIO and MICH are awake and outraged, the candidate response was to double down and made new commercials on jobs moving to China, Assuming people are human and this registers then we read TURD BLOSSOM here, on another Blog they edited three of my posts covering and explaining what all this means

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Pro Life Crusader +

9:50 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012

BUTCH praying will help with your inner demons!!

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BUTCH

10:09 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012

REV Jimmy Swaggart and most REV Ted Haggard tried that what did it get them more sex from boys and little girls, Cardinal Dolan prays a lot for predator priests and for every prayer a new $ 20,000 predator comes forward, maybe TWIT does it right is it true they say JC is the BROTHER of SATAN?

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Will Joseph

5:54 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

We've ALL considered an exocism, Vera - but you keep breaking the restraining straps and vomiting pea soup on us ...

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Chronicles of Bob

12:20 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Why did you post this? You realize the author is making fun of this claim that sin caused the storm. You realize he actualy makes fun of the guy who claims romney is pro gay and that romney believ es that jesus is the brother of satan.
My guess is your dumb ass read the title and thought it was in support of your equally dumb claims.

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Pro Life Crusader +

12:56 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

It's showing a point that God is punishing everyone for their immoral acts and rantings and way ward thinking such as the article shows.

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Tim

1:24 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Just so we are clear on what you 'believe'. Since you think this is being done for immoral acts, You must think god approves of child rape, because he hasn't destroyed all the churches that participated in and covered up the raping of children.

And yet you wonder why people are turning away in record numbers from the superstitious beliefs that you cling to?

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Pro Life Crusader +

1:30 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Tim God owns his Church's and would not destroy them, but the sinners will be dealt with. People leaving in vast numbers? Where? A Church in Naperville has 6,0000 families and one in Plainfield 8,0000 families! I don't see a mass exodus like you falsely say!

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Chronicles of Bob

9:52 am on Friday, November 2, 2012

No you idiot... The article is mocking the very thought.

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Pro Life Crusader +

12:07 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

COB you dip S--t that's the gays way of not wanting to face the truth about their immoral ways and can't accept the truth of Gods wrath . So they make light of it with a stupid story line.

mecando

11:15 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012

God is not real....Romney is an empty suit....abortion is legal for a very good reason...
Fox spews and this current Republicon party is evil....Greed has taken over the world...Religon is a lie....at least 60% of the world is stupid.......Now get out there and vote for the next loser of the USA.............

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Pro Life Crusader +

11:37 am on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Mecando God is not real? Abortion(murder) is a good reason??? Not!!! Are you one of the 60% What's your so called religion or faith then?

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SouthSide

12:11 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Pro Life Crusader + or Vera or whatever this person's name is has ruined another otherwise decent forum.

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Pro Life Crusader +

12:14 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Southside like you know what decent is!! I think it's to complex for your thinking!!

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mecando

1:18 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

I know little Fox lambs, the truth hurts...............

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Pro Life Crusader +

1:25 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Mecando I know the truth, but it's like a line from a movie for you!! "You can't handle the truth"

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BUTCH

3:02 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

TURD BLOSSOM, it's almost game time for TWIT the dodger to release and or double down on his Tax-exempt status as a magic drawers wearer.
Can hardly wait to see how his elusive DEALINGS as CEO BAIN and off shore oil drilling and exploration with the Red Army will play out on FOX and Hillbilly HEROIN yell radio, the beginning of the end is in 5 days and then we can have a real debate on abortion and the BAIN DOZEN CONCENTRATION CAMPS and other MURKAN off shore corporations contributing Billions to the abortions and murders of millions of babies in the BAIN HOMELAND!
Does yer wing nut church PASTOR or priest ever say anything about the millions of abortions and murders of Catholic babies by the PARTNERS OF TWIT?

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BUTCH

3:18 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

everyone is marveling on the Bipartisanship between CHRISTIE and POTUS, another of the finalists for T PARTY VP- Gov. McDonnell of VA has doubled down and repeated what Christie said and the mayor of NYC who Fox said just yesterday was dissing POTUS, Bloomberg like former Gov Crist, Sec Powell and more CEO 's has joined the chorus for OBAMA,.
Meanwhile 20 mostly GOP STATES are stealing the taxes a employee pays in Fed taxes, this is crony capitalism at the worst and is one of the reasons Illinois a DEM state is in trouble, if Illinois and these other crony's lose their HI WAY trust fund allocation it will start to solve the messes that these pol's have created THEY HAVE DEPRIVED AND COST THE TREASURY HUNDREDS of BILLIONS.

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Pro Life Crusader +

3:20 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

BUTCH are you mentally challenged. The Catholic Church, better yet my Church aren't in cahoots with anyone or any group that does abortion (execution) . Possible brain tumor in your head!!!

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BUTCH

5:31 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

The archbishop of Joliet says otherwise he talks like he speaks for CITIZENS UNITED and the tax dodgers, he is fear mongering because the Archdiocese is running out of predator retirement funding and needs a constant infusion of guinea pigs and cannon fodder, all of this fear mongering for the T PARTY CON-MEN. ,
yer Rovian game plan attacking the messenger of the coalition of workers, women rights and pro choice Catholics is obvious, Tell us KARL on the RAPE thing , UGHH did I say that no some other wing nut did!
did VERA LOSE HIS HER ABILITY TO SHAKE OFF THE RAPE AFTER THE TRANS SEXUAL OPERATION? let's get to the TAXES and CEO DAYS at BAIN and the oil-gas drilling operation in IRAN! come on TURDIE I can handle the truth!

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BUTCH

5:54 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

If yer fascist wing were not in cahoots with the CHRISTIAN CHARLATAN COALITION and slave and child fascists who murder millions of babies have sex with babies, children and the same sex and then proselytize in the most crude hypocrisy simply because Turdies Shamless depravity diverts the trail away from the money the shelters rapped in trusts and wrapped around tax exempts and religious freedom to wear MAGIC UNDERWEAR.

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Will Joseph

5:55 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Matthew 7:5, Vera, dear. Matthew 7:5.

Pro Life Crusader +

3:39 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

This is a little tidbit of information that everyone one should know how our State Governments are getting worse than the Federal Cronies!!

if you plan on voting and live in Illinois or Minnesota you better beware! Why?
In Minnesota on the electoral ballot they have an amendment should same-sex marriage be abolished?
If one fails to either mark yes or No, guess what? Mn votes no automatically for you.
In Illinois on the electoral ballot they are asking should there be an amendment to the Illinois constitution?
Again if one fails to mark yes or No , guess what? Il votes yes!
Who in hell does the State Government think they are or gives them the right to cast a vote in favor of them if one does not mark yes or No on a ballot!! In my opinion They can stick it up their ( ! )

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Logansdad

4:32 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Lies, lies and more lies. You have no proof that is what they do.
In Illinois, if you don't mark a box for a particular question, the vote is not counted either way.

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Logansdad

1:55 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

I didnt post anything about Minnesota. My response was to the Illinois part. Sorry if you can't read.

You can't back up your misleading statement about Illinois elections can you?

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AUSPICIOUS !

3:48 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012

Vera man, that's not true, if you leave it blank, no one gets the vote. where do you get this stuff from?

Pro Life Crusader +

3:50 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Also what if one does not vote for either Romney or Obama , does the U.S. government say since Obama is already the President we give him the vote?

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Stones

4:27 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Vera, you're an idiot! The Presidential election is not a referendum, you either vote for one or the other or possibly another candidate or a write-in candidate.

Amazing you have the nerve to spout off on here about any topic related to politics when you're not bright enough to understand something as simple as an election. Please stay at your rallies wearing your offensive shirts and leave the rest of us alone.

Pro Life Crusader +

4:30 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Stones dare to make me stay away?? I figure you can't!!

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Stones

11:16 am on Friday, November 2, 2012

Vera, I dare you to stay away. How's that? Since this is just an internet comment section, any suggestions on how I could "make" you stay away? Like most of us, I can only hope.

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Pro Life Crusader +

12:00 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Stones I'm here to stay , just as much as you are!!

Pro Life Crusader +

5:19 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Hey Stone you imbecile if you look, I refrained lately by not calling one anyone names! Now you call be an idiot!! Please keep your scum mouth shut, as it shows we're you live!! I don't care if it's a damn referendum , it's still a vote and the government has no business choosing for us if we don't vote on something!

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Stones

11:25 am on Friday, November 2, 2012

Really? On Wednesday you called President Obama a piss ant. Should I look further? It was very mature of you and so predictable as well.

"Pro Life Crusader +
2:03 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012
Stones I'll respect your belief it wasn't Gods wrath as long as your respect my belief it was! As far as a Obama being a great President is that a joke of the week? He's nothing but a piss ant and failed us all!"

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Pro Life Crusader +

11:58 am on Friday, November 2, 2012

Stones is the Secret Service going to come and get me? I'm shaking in my boots. Piss ant means!

1. a person or thing of no value or consequence
2. an ant.
adjective
1. insignificant or worthless.

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Stones

1:39 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Vera, once again you miss a point smaking you right in the face. You said you refrained from calling anyone names, I pointed out you have. Now, you respond with a definition. You've go a real disconnect going on in that brain of yours.

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Pro Life Crusader +

1:45 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Stones use your pea sized brain. In my earlier comment, I said I was refraing from name calling to people leaving comments here and about me. I didn't say anything about the President!!! He's open season!!!

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Will Joseph

5:56 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Now THAT'S the Vera we all know and laugh at - er, love!

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AUSPICIOUS !

3:39 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012

a piss ant ? vera really your account should be suspended. your name calling to people on here and To Your President of the USA, should not be tolerated

BUTCH

5:57 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

WHO THE HELL goes to a TURD BLOSSOM RALLY?

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BUTCH

8:47 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

And now the end is near for Twit to face the final curtain, I made my case for this I'm certain on massive TAX EVASION, coercion and intimidation
SEE YA TURD BLOSSOM!

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BUTCH

10:39 am on Friday, November 2, 2012

Final curtain call-
DELPHI bought for 67 cents a share when the auto industry was ready to be sold to Red China for 70 cents a share and why the scum said "LET EM GO BANKRUPT" Delphi makes STEERING COLUMNS the PANTS on FIRE goddess Ann bought a million shares, the Bailout made her a 4000 % profit but the wannabe liar in chief was incensed his partners did not get to buy the CADDIES,BUICKS AND CHEVY'S so desired by his RED ARMY Generals -Colonels and Majors, he then demanded the OBAMA administration pay her holy GODDESS ANN $22 a share aah so and now why again are dis info-misinform and 100 lies a min commercial are hitting the airwaves.
TWIT FED taxes claim he gave 10% of his earnings that were not in Swiss Banks-Irish and Luxemburg shelters or the CAYMAN islands to his favorite charity HIMSELF a bona fide BISHOP and official magic underwearer with a full Binder of the MORMON CULT a non affiliate of LDS.
His cult only pays lip service to the BRINGHAM and or JOE SMITH wings he is ideologically more in step with PAT ROBERTSON who is a deviate of the worst kind who steers the fundy flocks into hell as a partner of a AFRICAN despot CHAS TAYLOR who awarded Pat a blood Diamond mine, the man among FUNDY wing nuts deviants who regularly fleece the government along with their sexual perversions so the plan of the T PARTY abandon deviate planing (MIND CONTROL) go back to their bread butter lies and more lies to save TWIT from scrutiny of a simultaneous IRS and ETHICS probe..

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Pro Life Crusader +

11:11 am on Friday, November 2, 2012

Looks like Obama and FEMA is really dropping the ball. On the news the other day Obama assured
everyone that the help is on the way! Where? Watching the Channel 7 news and people are complaining left and right that it's been several days now and where's the food, clothes and the much needed help.

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Pro Life Crusader +

12:32 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

See COB there's a difference between you and I ! I have the gonads to tell someone to their face , but you do it over the Internet. You are the type where someone would get in your girly face and you would run away with your tail or shall I say your panties between your legs. Run girl run!!

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Chronicles of Bob

12:48 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Aww, did your wittle feelin' s get hurt. Il tell you what... tell me where to meet you... il wear my "im with idiot" tshirt so you can find me.

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Pro Life Crusader +

12:55 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

COB No feelings hurt! I dealt with and laughed at morons like you. Aww you don't have to wear your family crest "I'm an idiot"

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Chronicles of Bob

10:27 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

I see what you did there... you took my tshirt line and twisted it around to fit your own... wow, genius... do you have your thought vera or do you just ramble like an idiot....
u h oh....do you want to fight again...

Walt Hines

11:37 am on Friday, November 2, 2012

FYI: 3 buses of Com-Ed workers left last night for the East Coast to help bring up services. I'm heading out at 2am with my outreach group from church. We have been packing up clothing, toiletries, diapers, bedding, food etc...

With this kind of disaster it takes time to get everyone up and running. There's major gas leeks, lines down everywhere and flooding beyond belief. President Obama has sent in the national guard, food is getting in and much needed medical care. Before spewing your mouth once again you really should find out what's going on. What group from your church is heading out in the morning Vera?

Once again the know it all's on here are flapping the lips. By the way the T.V. doesn't tell you everything do your own homework.

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Pro Life Crusader +

11:41 am on Friday, November 2, 2012

Walt if you watch the News you would have seen very large groups of people voicing their anger. It wasn't the news omitting anything.

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Pro Life Crusader +

11:46 am on Friday, November 2, 2012

Also Walt Catholic Charities and Cathoic Relief Services are already on the East coast doing their great work for the ones in need.

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Tim

12:16 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

If its 'gods wrath', then why would a church send people to help with the results of gods wrath? Or did god just use a shotgun approach and hit innocent people as well in his goal to hit the 'immoral ones'? For an all powerful being, his aim is pretty horrible.

Pro Life Crusader +
11:16 am on Wednesday, October 31, 2012
This is God's wrath on the East coast with hurricane Sandy.

BUTCH

12:19 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

where's the MAGIC UNDERWEAR RELIEF and or where is Blood Diamond Robertson King of the Christian charlatan slackers? The TPARTY owner of a coal mine running for the Senate in PA just gave his campaign 10 million more and just down the street there is no power YER DONE TURDIE lying yer way into office and intimidate people not to vote is over! SHAMELESS TRANNY FLAMER!

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Pro Life Crusader +

12:22 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Tim God punishes everyone when he deems it necessary. God giveth and God taketh!! God still sends help so they may heed his message.

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Tim

12:49 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

god is a sociopath, got it. Wouldn't it be better for god to appear to these people individually to give them the message to heed, instead of punishing those who had nothing to do with it? If god is going to punish his own followers in such a large area, after reeling them in with the 'you will be saved in me' sales-pitch, that doesn't sound like a very wise or honest god.

So why are churches helping those affected by gods wrath? Wouldn't that make them blasphemous by going against gods plan? The book of Job was already written, so why does your god feel the need to constantly repeat himself? Can he not get it right the first time?

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Pro Life Crusader +

1:08 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Tim I sure hope you don't get a dreaded disease or when you are facing death, you will be and I gurantee , you will be begging for mercy and forgiveness. Plus you don't have any concept on how God works. Thats why it's said " In mysterious ways" Get the idea now?

BUTCH

12:40 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Tim the golden calf calf god the one that made goddess Ann a 4,000 % profit did it.
twit the job creator while Gov of MASS had a all time record for the least number of new jobs his genius sent all the jobs to China then also he was 47TH in the 50 As CEO of BAIN he went to the top sending millions of jobs and offshoring MURKAN factory's 50,000 low-hi tech machinery and technology that helped the RED ARMY develop it's J-31 STEALTH FIGHTER.
Misinfo TURDIE prefers talking about abortion and religion what FRIGGIN
the GOLDEN CALF AND MAGIC DRAWER GOD has commandments that only despicable humanoid understand on taxing the poor to give to BAIN" because of the ethics and tax laws why not they are in big friggin manure.

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BUTCH

1:26 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

NEWS, UAW AND CITIZENS for Responsibility and Ethics in Wash{CREW)
have filed a formal complaint with US OFFICE of Government Ethics which by chance was on the R-R HIT list of government agency's to be abolished, he must disclose or divest his and the goddess Ann 4000 % profit on her seeing eye dog BLIND TRUST..
We are all grateful the max security facility on GITMO is still open TWIT-LYIN Ryan the GODDESS and the boys and even TURD BLOSSOM should find it extremely comfortable not as plush as the CAYMANS where it is reported DUBYA (remember GW) is visiting ROBME'S money today!
A wise man told me having TWIT CIC is like PUTTING one of DOLANS predator priests in Charge of Boystown

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H.I. McDunnough

2:43 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

GOP supporters are selfish. Want proof? Check this out...

"The top income tax rates have changed considerably since the end of World War II. Throughout
the late-1940s and 1950s, the top marginal tax rate was typically above 90%; today it is 35%.
Additionally, the top capital gains tax rate was 25% in the 1950s and 1960s, 35% in the 1970s;
today it is 15%. The average tax rate faced by the top 0.01% of taxpayers was above 40% until
the mid-1980s; today it is below 25%. Tax rates affecting taxpayers at the top of the income
distribution are currently at their lowest levels since the end of the second World War."

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Bob B

4:17 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Quoting idiots makes you a what? That's right, even worse than an idiot.

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Pro Life Crusader +

5:03 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Bob. B you use that word loosely ! Is your family full of them, you retard!

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Bob B

5:06 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Nobody is more full of them and full of it than you are PLC/Vera/John/Tom....

And your last comment shows just how truly ignorant you are. Christian indeed.

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Pro Life Crusader +

5:12 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Bob B are you inbreed or are you a autistic? Ignorant how piss ant???

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Pro Life Crusader +

5:20 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

When is the piss ant of a President and his administration going be held accountable in the reckless mishandling of Benghazi once and for all and I love to see more negative exposure before the election!! Wake up people Obama screwed up! Was he protecting his Muslim brothers???

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/11/01/secret-cable-revelation-blows-open-benghazi-cover-up-story/

http://www.heritage.org/multimedia/video/2012/10/bucci-libya-americas-newsroom

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Bob Laird

5:28 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

you folks are getting pretty raunchy. you all have valid points, but y'all sound like a bunch of first graders hurling taunts at each other. at least first graders do it face to face at recess.

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Pro Life Crusader +

5:35 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

I'll be glad to do it face to face to some of the people here, but I know their type from past experience and they would run away!

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Bob B

5:38 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Spoken by someone who continuously uses phony names. Yeah, you're real gutsy.

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Will Joseph

6:02 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

LEAVE TOM SELLECK / JOHN MORELI / VERA / PRO LIFE LOONEY ALONE!

SHE'S DIFFERENT AND SHE DOESN'T KNOW ANY BETTER!!!

Pro Life Crusader +

5:51 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Wow Bob B., what is Bob B? Bob Begone, Bob Bore, Bob Baloney or Bob Brainless!!

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Bob B

5:54 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Try Bob B better than you.

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Pro Life Crusader +

6:34 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Wow thats a good one Bob Behemoth!!

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Pro Life Crusader +

6:42 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

See what happens by calling the liberals President a piss ant, they come out calling one names because of ones opinion and feelings!!! Mommy , Mommy PLC called our beloved piss ant President a name!! Mommy!!!

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Stones

10:34 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Vera, you might make a better arguement if you were mature, relied on facts and showed some respect for the office of the President, regardless of who holds the position. Everyone has been unhappy with a sitting President at some point, but most don't resort to the lowest levels name calling and disrespect that you do. And then combine it with a complete lack of factual information. You know like posting a Youtbube clip on HR3200, a law that doesn't even exist.

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AUSPICIOUS !

8:58 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Vera your deep in a bad way..............................just sayin

Pro Life Crusader +

10:54 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

I respect the Office of President and always will , but don't have to of the person that holds the title !

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Stones

11:15 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Then you simply don't respect the Office.

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AUSPICIOUS !

8:59 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Vera that makes no sense, do you read and think before you click submit ?

BUTCH

11:40 pm on Friday, November 2, 2012

Sorry mature,facts,he-she is slug waste anyone who mouths off support for killers despots, cannibals, deviant preachers and looters whether it be Zionist extremist,Jihadist Fundamental Prody or Catholic who is able to overlook pedophiles,predators have never had humanity nor any form of spirituality this is an agent of Lucifer the brother of JC by his own dogma aka the Bain devil, this Shameless creature works to deliver all of us and our most precious gift liberty to the most diabolical form of tyranny the Republic has yet experienced.
Have u people ever listened to what this RED ARMY scum sucker says and is the reason he flips so much because he is such a diabolic sociopath he enjoys saying the truth to see if we are able to pick it up, the son of Lucifer threatened America if we do not electi him ," A far worse 4 years than the past 4 with no so called bipartisan to be gotten" His ego is bigger than his Cayman Is assets.
In the final days ,they are resorting to COERCION FOLKS,
The fundy Fear God, Fear god, obey his commandments and it is the duty of man , blessed is the man who fears god he will be cast u into hell if u do not "
The Turdie and Fundy rhetoric is now the gospel of the magic drawers MORMON who says vote for me or it will be hell on earth,
BEGONE SATAN take the TRANNY his-her useless potted plant with u
and we can stop these simpleton log cabin faggot posts of Charlatans and heretics.

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Pro Life Crusader +

1:11 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012

BUTCH there are pills that will help you!

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BUTCH

12:40 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012

There are no known brain transplants to help u, however they do heart transplants for tin men regularly Cheney has had a few so u can get 50% help it may in yer hormonal imbalances as well.
REMEMBER Lyin Ryan he disappeared after they began telling the truth on his ECONOMIC GURU,Ayn Rand the atheist who said" anyone who is religious is a weak slacker as worthy as a fish flopping on dry land we need to cull the herd or get rid of the CHRISTIANS CHARLATANS and the real one's either way if u are who u say yer friggin toast-in a ROBME Ryan TPARTY administration.

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AUSPICIOUS !

9:01 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

This is starting to get ugly again...

I think i will use this material and do a little stand up comedy

LOl

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