Good comment in the spirit of things. Unlike the nutjobs complaining about an imaginery Obama.

Man, you stupid Republicans never quit.

hahahahahahahaha

As per usual Disciple/Vera/Tom/etc. etc. you show your lack of knowledge of anything. Socialist; wrong: Muslim; wrong: Idiot; wrong, although perhaps you were being autobiographical with that one.

Disciple - How do you know the President is a Muslim? I assume you are one and practice your faith together? You say that because you think it's an insult. There is nothing wrong with being Muslim.

Judith,
Read the arms treaty I did, go UN.org. Section 2, H Small Arms and Ammunition is included in the treaty
Read the treaty and you will see that all arms from A to H an annually inventory will be required by any country who signs the treaty, this inventory will be sent to all countries who sign the treaty. That means mine,yours all who own a firearm will be included on the inventory list and sent out internationally to all countries who agree to the treaty.
There's more the countries who sign the treaty will do everything in their power to control the arms in their country.
I called Durbins office twice last week to talk to staffers boy was that a joke. One of staffers debated me on the writings of the treaty, I finally asked have you vever read the treaty. He said no!
I asked Durbins staffers outright can the president and or congress confiscate and or regulate small arms based on a national treaty side stepping the constitution 2nd amendment. 4 staffers and 30 minutes later no straight answer.
We will wait 4years and we will see who is stupid.

I ment international treaty not national.

Read the treaty before you comment.
http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/LTD/N12/555/62/PDF/N1255562.pdf?OpenElement
After you read the treaty call your senator and ask the staffer if the president and congress can confiscate and regulate small arms based on A international agreement and bypass the constitution. You will be amazed at the answers.
Dick Durbins Washington Office number 202-224-2152

I can come up with some suggestions for Disciple. How about Afghanistan or Pakistan. He'd fit right in with the Taliban.

"where an ignorant fool like you may find happiness" That is why "that side" is so ignorant, missing the whole point which is TADA~~~ The last four years of failure and blaming Bush for everything that happened, even though the last two years were controlled by the trolls, the dems... liberal is not a lifestyle, it is ending life before it is born.. I can see from the amount of comments by you against everyone, that your really don't have a life! I am 73, retired for 7 years and can laugh at people like you, I find ignorance funny! Times 545 people in Wasteington Debit Capital that prove ignorance is a high paying job..

Disciple - who exactly do you praise?

Praise??

Yes, praise.

There's only one that can be praised and thats to the only true God of Christian faith. Nothing else!

That's your opinion and belief. Do not force others to believe.

^ ^ Well said.

You have a vivid imagination. WND is mentally ill and prone to paranoia. You can return to the rabble now as you've proven your inability to comprehend.

Ernie, I thought he was a socialist, not a fascist. I wish you haters would keep your stories straight.

BTW, I'm only "all in" for the good ol' USA. President Obama was the better choice this time around, and apparently I'm not the only one who thought that way.

Stones says "apparently I'm not the only one who thought that way." Well it was fifty/fifty and the electoral college, like any college, is a dumping ground for people that don't have a job yet and are taught by liberal baby haters..

Dennis - I think you need to learn how the electoral college works. Secondly, Obama won the popular vote by more than 3 million votes.

Dennis, I would guess you had no problem with the Electoral College in 2000 when President Bush was elected. The EC is needed to be sure every state gets a say in the election. It was an ingenious idea by our founding fathers.

Do you have any idea what the Electoral College is or how it works?

Stones - you're posting facts. People like Disciple don't believe in facts.

Romney is not a Christian so what's your point?

well I am saying you aren't an american. I didn't see proof of your birth place. I've seen the President's.

Dennis, I'm going to make this quite simple. OBAMA'S MOTHER WAS FROM KANSAS. THAT MAKES HIM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. I learned that in FIFTH GRADE.

Obama is not pro murder.

Catholicism is not the only Christian religion.

If you're so against anyone that is not Christian, you should have supported one of the Independent candidates and not the non-Christian Romney.

Do you have any idea how many people the Catholic church murders to protect it's lies? People in glass houses....

Emily you open your stupid mouth, now show your facts that the Catholic murders. Words from an atheist.

You always call me an Atheist because I don't agree with you. Interesting. Oh Vera, you need to be careful. Your insanity is showing.

Emily careful of what?

Vera, apparently you are unaware of the Inquisistion. I'm pretty sure the Catholic Church killed an awful lot of people during that time period. But I guess they don't count because they weren't abortions, right? Their crime being non-Catholic.

Ken get a clue.....Mormons are christians. They believe is Jesus Christ, so therefore they are CHRISTians. get it.?

First of all, abortion is not murder. And even if it was, unless he's had an abortion himself or performed one, he's got nothing to worry about.

Your thought process is interesting coming from someone that makes comments here promoting murder. Looks like you'll be suffering the consequences when your day of judgement arrives.

"2:25 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Better yet a sniper shot! Problem solved."

Forcing people to live by your religious views is not Freedom. Go move to Iran.

Emily is that all you have. I don't force religion on anyone , I tell it like it is. If you want to believe in wrong doing, go for it and suffer for it later in life.

But you feel it's wrong doing based on your religious beliefs. Therefore, forcing people to live by your religious views.

Vera - as usual you have not read everything and I can only assume it's cause your crazy eyes can't focus. Iran is a country that creates laws based on a single religion. You want America to do the same. Instead, I invited you to go to a country that already does. You've occupied enough of my time with your nonsense. Happy Haunukkah Vera.

Emily sorry I don't recognize or respond to anything about Hanukkah .

Jesus rules.
You just did!!! LOL

For someone who hates all other religions should know Jesus was a Jew.

The point is that you're a hypocrite and support murder.

Looks like you're guilty of what you call "intrensic evil" and one you will be justly punished for on judgement day.

If you're going to argue, please stop using "intrensic", it's not a word. I think you're reaching for "intrinsic", but with your feeble mind, I can't be sure.

Who cares about the spelling Stone. Its about the real thought of evil. So let it be intrinsic evil if it makes you feel better in your thoughts.

Thanks for making my point. In your mind, you justify your "evil thoughts".

If we looked up the word hypocrite in the dictionary, we might just find your picture.

That's part of your problem. No one is killing defenseless babies.

Ken are you an idiot ! Innocent babies aren't murdered. Let's see living human life babies at 7,8 or 9 months are being sucked and ripped out in pieces from a moron woman's womb and that's not murder. How stupid!

Disciple:

You still honestly believe that a woman in her third trimester just wakes up one day, decides she doesn't want to be pregnant any more and goes to get an abortion? Give me a break. Late term abortions are only done if something goes catastrophically wrong in the pregnancy that could endanger both the baby and the mother's life.

Another question I'd like to ask: Have you ever approached a woman going to an abortion clinic and offered to adopt her unborn child? My guess would be no. You attempt to shame/scare them.

I had a priest who operated in the same vein as you, Father Tom Raftery. Instead of preaching the Good News of the Lord during his homilies, he would scold secular society. My family and I eventually started calling him Father Hellfire. I believe it is priests like him that are partially to blame for the mass exodus from the Church. People don't like to yelled at.

Mike , Father Raftery sounds like my kind if priest. God bless him! And yes woman in their third trimesters get abortions for convenience, such as boo hoo I can't afford the baby now, my husband or boyfriend pressured me too, or as long as it makes them happy to get rid of the burden. And yes many many babies about to be aborted have been saved and taken in by Catholic charities and other worth while organizations. Mike did you leave the great Catholic faith, if so where did you stray? And the reason people today don't like stern Priest, is because people want to do what they want to do as long is it makes them happy and forget the Catholic teaching and ways.

I am still a practicing Catholic. I have elected to stay with the Church because I believe that change is most effective when it comes from within.

Glad you are a still a Catholic Mike, but change just can't come from within if some believes in abortion or anything that goes against Catholic teaching and values. If that happens one should no longer be a Catholic!

I don't really care what the Catholic church teaches and neither should the President or any other elected official. Heck, as a Catholic, JFK didn't even care.

Ken there are some elected officials that follow their Christian or Catholic teachings and they stay true to their values . If they don't I will not vote for them. Ken If you aren't a believer in God or the Christian faith , I'll pray for you and others that don't, so purgatory is more tolerable.

Don't worry about me. I am a Christian, just not Catholic.

It's funny how you preach about your faith being so important when you vote, but you voted for someone that is not Christian. That my friend, along with many other things, makes you a prime example of a hypocrite!

Still stalking abortion clinics, or have the restraining orders not expired yet?

That's how stupid and uneducated you are Mike. Abortion mills are free game and no they can't get a court order stopping us! Also Mike they aren't called restraining orders , but orders if protection , which basically are primarily for domestic situations. Good luck if anyone can get an order stopping us!! Never will happen.

FYI, I'm a former employee of the Clerk of the Circuit Court of Cook County's office. Orders of protection can issued for any valid reason, not just domestic battery.

Mike yes anyone can get an OOP for very vallid and legit reasons. Judges here in Will and DuPage County don't hand them out like candy. Like I said the vast majority are for domestic related situations. As far as an abortion mill getting an OOP for protesters , they would be turned down as they wouldn't meet the criteria!

what did I say that makes u think I am suffering was it the golden calf ? U prefer the Queen of Spades!
YOUR Christianity so called is based on Dinosaurs in the garden of Eden! There is nothing in the mythic OT- TORAH or NT or the Council of anywhere that resembles yer stupidity and wing nut nuttiness except in pulpits where preadators and anti gay-but real homo Charlatan Christians gather in mega churches and preach to the nitwits in the choir, does Dennis and Harry Callaghan attend ?
COULD IT BE one is a wannabe preachers the other the choir master!

COB I already take the bus with one of your children.

COB, Thanks for the laugh! And at Vera's expense, even better.

and u wanted us to be part of Sheldon's little Triad enterprise zone in MACAU!
PROBLEM with wingnuts they are either or both abused and abusers and love little babies to death when they become 10 this is the reason for the anti abortion frenzy it has a lot to do also with i GD Searle the druggie who first made the pill in the 60's and why they want to turn the clock back!

While I'm proud of you for learning how to spell "intrinsic" sometime in the past day, I sure do wish you'd learn how to use an apostrophe. Someone who has so little respect for the English language has no business earning enough money to be able to "donate a few thousand a year in groceries." And unless you're a complete idiot (the jury's out), you know that I mentioned transubstantiation as an example of how protestants pick on Catholicism, not as an actual discussion point.

How dare you tell me that I shouldn't be Catholic anymore! And how dare you think you get to be a mouthpiece for Catholic or Christian values! I have a newsflash for you: Approximately 98% of the adults in your church have used birth control and about half of your fellow parishioners voted for President Obama. Yep. Obama won 52% of the Catholic vote. Odds are, you shake hands with a bunch of those Obama voters at Sunday mass. The members of your men's club are laughing at you. Peace be with you when you wake up and realize that your views are fringe and not at all in line with Catholic values.

I am pro-life for myself, but I can keep my head out of my ass long enough to understand that it's not so simple as saying being pro-choice means believing in murder. Keeping abortions safe and legal means that fewer women commit suicide or avoid having to tell their conservative families they're pregnant through other desperate means, like dangerous drugs smuggled in from Mexico or trips down cement stairs.

@Ellie: too bad he doesn't know the definition of "intrinsic" (see my comment with the quote from "The Princess Bride"below).

Ellie after our meeting last night we all went out for a few drinks and had a fun time tearing into believers and supporters of abortion and what a louse Obama is. If you don't believe it, we will invite you next time sonyou can see what we say about louse Obama and abortion, you would run out in tears.

You do realize that churches are made up of individual human beings, right? Some members of my church feel the way I do about certain issues and others don't, just like some people in your church agree with you on certain things while others think you're a whackadoodle.

You see its not very funny when you take my humor and try and spin it to your own... it just makes you sound dumber ... assuming thats possible.

You're talking trash on the internet and you're hiding behind an alias. Real tough.

I was at work. Thanks for your concern.

Our Vice President is a Catholic, and a much better one than you are, Vera/Bob/Disciple/Jesus rules.
By the way, it's spelled "Santa Claus." And "Mr. Biden's facial expression" needs an apostrophe. You see, apostrophes are used to indicate possession, not plurals as you seem to think.

Just love it when a Catholic who supports abortion, cites bible scripture. How stupid and funny. Donkey go and tell your Priest that you are a supporter of abortion and who knows what other intrinsic evil that goes against the faith.

If anybody ever needs a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black, see above.

B.S. case in point. None. Another typical moron that thinks people that are Catholic need help.

Just Catholics that change their name on a constant basis. Too bad the personality doesn't change with it, maybe to something, oh say, likable. Try Cybill and sticking to it, at least there's only 13 there.

@whatever name you are now
I don't think there is anything wrong with Catholics. Many of my friends are Catholic. None of them act like you. I think it is because they are normal, sane people.
I do think that YOU are suffering from some sort of mental illness and DO need help, lots and lots of help.

B.S. those friends of yours also probably voted for Obama and support abortion and same sex marriage. And to Stone change your name to AH.

B.S. the ones that need help and are mentally ill, are the ones that say they are real Catholics , (actually phony Catholics) and they attended Church putting on a false facade when they actually voted for Obama, support abortion and same sex marriage. One can not be a Catholic then.

"B.S. the ones that need help and are mentally ill, are the ones that say they are real Catholics , (actually phony Catholics) and they attended Church putting on a false facade when they actually voted for Obama, support abortion and same sex marriage. One can not be a Catholic then."

So I can't be Catholic because I'm capable of independent thought and don't tow the Church line? Give me a break.

Donkey no you can't be independent I.e. believe in abortion, same sex marriage or intrinsic evil and be a Catholic. When you are Catholic you need to tow the line. Pick one or the other or quit the faith. You are a real phony then.

"Donkey no you can't be independent I.e. believe in abortion, same sex marriage or intrinsic evil and be a Catholic. When you are Catholic you need to tow the line. Pick one or the other or quit the faith. You are a real phony then."

'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.'
-Jesus

Like my new alias and profile pic?

I got it from the title of a book.

H.I. I'll tolerate and ignore Odumba for the next 4 years just like I tolerate a white aspirin.

Have you ever noticed that some of the loudest anti-abortion voices are men?

Unproven fact , but if it were true Amen! It takes a real man to fight against abortion(murder).

You mean "Photoshopped" posters, I do believe.

What makes you think that JR is not in an institution now? I think that the people in the institution let JR post here to keep him busy so he doesn't bother the other patients.

Jesus is a fairy tale. Grow up JR.

Intrinsic.

"You keep using that word. I don not think it means what you think it means."
-Inigo Montoya

in·trin·sic [in-trin-sik, -zik]
adjective
1. belonging to a thing by its very nature: "the intrinsic value of a gold ring."
2. Anatomy . (of certain muscles, nerves, etc.) belonging to or lying within a given part.

At least Vera put my spelling lesson to use. Now if he only understood it.

Stones, that would require the ability to think. Vera is just a lemming.

Wikepedia as a source? Please! Get off the couch.

Jesus rules
In the eyes and word of God, there is no difference. When somebody kills another, either by abortion or after a lengthy trial, somebody gets killed by somebody else.
I guess in you church there is an amendment to the sixth commandment.
What about the people that were on death row and were innocent? It happens, and I believe that is why Illinois no longer has the death penalty Was it OK to kill those people?
So, I ask again, since you are no longer a Catholic (by your own rules) what religion is next? I hear Buddhism is quite nice. .

Vera, B.S. has you on this one, capitlal punishment is against Churh Doctorine. Though, personally I am in favor of and am personally opposed to abortion. The difference is I don't force my beliefs on others like you do. One other thing, I'm not a crazed loon like you.

Does that mean I can't be Catholic?

Wait--"Jesus rules" supports the death penalty? The person who stated that we only have God to answer to? And he thinks he has the right to say that I shouldn't identify as Catholic? I'd bet 15 pull-tabs that some of Jesus rules's fellow KOCers think he is evil and going to hell for supporting the death penalty. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he goes to the restroom and the others talk about him. The hypocrisy is just too much. No other Catholics are allowed to veer away from any of the Pope's rules, but Jesus rules gets to cherrypick? Oh, that is rich. I shouldn't be this surprised, but yet I am. If I'm a bad Catholic, Jesus rules is a worse Catholic because at least I know that I'm imperfect and I have a lot to learn from others. Oh, and I don't wish ill upon my President and (Catholic) Vice President.

Ellie do you realize a great thing about being a Catholic is? One can go to confession and confess their sins and be for given. It's lIke having the slate erased clean. Try it sometime. Everyone sins from time to time everyday of the week and if one says they never do is a damn liar.

Stones you can believe in the death penalty and be a Catholic , but when you go to confession you ask the Priest for forgivness. If you don't confess that you believe in the death penalty, you comitt a grave sin , by hiding the sin. You can be a Catholic, but not with sin.

Vera, you do know you don't have to go to confession to ask for absolution, right? Whenever I feel I've sinned, I just ask God for forgiveness.

Donkey you are so wrong. Better talk to your Priest and get a refresher course in Catholicism. You still need to go to confession to be absolved of your sins. Geez learn something.

Ellie after our meeting last night we all went out for a few drinks and had a fun time tearing into believers and supporters of abortion and what a louse Obama is.

They're not laughing *with* you. They're laughing *at* you.

Donkey face why would that be? You don't think they detest abortions and the useless president.

Jr
I was wondering how you would know this so I tried google and look what I found:
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/catholicism-excommunication-and-other-penalties.html
You copied and pasted from How to be a Catholic for Dummies! Now I am starting to see why your posts are so stupid. You are learning how to be Catholic from the wrong book. The rest of us tend to use the Bible.

B.S. show that list to any Priest and he will confirm what I posted.

B.S., That's pretty good! Caught Vera with his pants down, I hope he wasn't in church.

No,based on your comments before, your established opinions, and your constant attacks, it's safe to say that you were making a statement. You ended the sentence with exclamation marks... Not a question mark...
I'm pretty sure everyone on here will agree that your intention was not of opinion...

Oh.. and !!! Snap

You should take your own advice.. With the part about ..."So don't come here and spout off like you know what you are talking about of the Catholic faith."

the same page that says PPH amd same sex partners are against the 11th commandments and that priests must be married to the church to insure the Vatican treasury is healthy and there are no probate issues with widows and children of the priests etc.

Do I what?

COB still love to hear your expertise opinion on my comment on late Church goers. I bet you have some type of explanation?

COB do you tell that to Priest too that preach and complain about abortion issues, their parishioners coming to church late and other wrong doings they do.

The most important thing now is Hanukah. Happy Holidays to you.

Im assuming you dont understand the origins of santa and especially the orgins of the gifts ...

Saint Nicholas exist, but not Santa Clause. Two completely different people. One real, one made up.

"It's "Christ"mas! The birth of Jesus"

Jesus was not born in December.

Logheadsdad don't celebrate Christma with your family then.

Go to tweeter and complain to the Pope than about the birth of Jesus.

BUTCH you probably believe in this too?

The Mayan calendar finishes one of its great cycles in December 2012, which has fueled countless theories about the end of the world on December 21, 2012 at 11:11(UTC).

If you literally spoke to your priest about your patch comments then i am quite sure he told u what u wanted to hear to get you the hell out of his office.

No, trust me, im right on the money...
I just spoke with him. Brought him an obama mug and an i love black people sign. He loved it. Told me he was giving me your heaven points, though they werent that many i took them anyway. Didnt want to be rude. That would not be very catholic if me.

COB thanks for the Obama mug at our Church, it comes in handy to scoop out the toliet after a a little child clogs it.

So donkey face what you are saying is that the Catholic church should get hip with the modern sinners and believe in abortion, same sex marriage and other immoral ways of living like everyone else in this whacked out world believes in? Not and never will! Let the immoral ones leave the Church an I will wave bye bye!

Vera, the Church is going hip, the Pope has a twitter account. Will you be a follower? Or is your insane blogging keeping you to busy in mommy's basement.

Stones I've tweeted the great Pope several times already and got some great inspirational quotes. What a beautiful religious and caring man. As far as the house goes , I own and live in a big beautiful one in Naperville, unlike the dumpy Brook!

"Let the immoral ones leave the Church an I will wave bye bye!"

So you're for ideological purification. You know who else was for that? Men like Hitler, Mussolini and Franco.

Bye bye! Don't let the Church door hit you when you leave. Donkey please tell us your theologian expertise how the Church has to change immorally.

Vera, Again you're wrong, he goes on-line next week according to the news.

Nice name, take a crash course in Latin? Does mean you now crusade around the countryside performing abortions? That would be what this means. Idiot in any language, just sayin'.........

You sure do have a totalitarian view of your faith. You have your opinions and anyone who dissents, you immediately either shout them down or try to scare them straight. When it comes to my faith, I follow the example of the Savior Jesus Christ, who preached love, kindness, tolerance and humility. I'd be willing to bet if the both of us lived during Jesus' time, I'd be one of his followers and you'd be one of the Pharisees.

L&C where does the totalitarian view come into play? Because I detest abortion and same sex marriage and I'm vocal about. Do your self a favor and see how Priest and others speak their mind at abortion(murder) mills.

"L&C are you really demented? You would have been stoned to death in those days if you claimed your self as liberal and believe in abortion or same sex marriage. Plus if you told Jesus you are independent and don't have to tow the line of the Church you would have faced fire and brimstone."

Shout down? Check.
Scare tactic? Check.

That is exactly what I was just talking about.

I counted none.... bit thanks anyway

He wasn't insulting you. He was describing you.

I think cardinal Dolan is a jovial ole man who got the vaunted Red cap for being Santa to predator priests u know like all those Obama voters getting stuff they got 20,000 USA DOLLARS for playing doctor with their young altar boys in the sacristy.

Couldnt of said it better LC... still not seeing it vera...
And george should be e in jail... what respect...

COB Cardinal George in jail? On what charge? None. Learn the law for once.

Have him email me directly. My email address is mdfangman at yahoo dot com.

So you're not ashamed of making this comment?

"BUTCH I swear you were a breech birth. That would explain your whacked out comments."

I seriously hope you get blocked from Patch soon. I'm fairly certain I speak for the rest of us sane people (COB, Ellie, whoever else you've picked a fight with here) in saying we're sick of your holier-than-thou attitude.

Don't pick any fights. If people don't like what I have to say about a topic, they should keep their mouths shut. And it's okay for BUTCH to call people names? L&C mined you own business too. Stay liberal! :-)

You deliberately post stupid and/or inflammatory comments to get a rise out of people. That's the definition of "picking a fight".

"9 faces of Vera", occasionally Butch makes sense and that one was pretty funny, plus he's taking swipes and your crazed views. You on the other hand, are a different kind of crazy, just not sure we'll be reading about you bombing a clinic or something of that sort. Plus your distorted views of Catholicism sickens us normal Catholics. The Church has enough problems without having you heap more on top of it.

You idiot, it's 2012 not 1482. This thing called life eats up a lot more time now days. The Church isn't open when I leave for work in the morning and family obligations are my priority at night. Plus all of what you list doesn't make you a Catholic or a Christian.

Why would I attend a rally that consists of intolerant religious zealots like you. Someone pointed out that if Jesus were alive today, you wouldn't even tolerate him and they are right, you wouldn't. Jesus Christ is the definition of a liberal who certainly would be in favor of healthcare for the poor and other safety nets, whereas, you would let the poor die in the streets. And be OK with it as long as you went to confession and prayed the Rosary. You're nothing more than a hypocrite.

Notice how I capitalized Rosary? You don't, nor do you capitalize Communion, you know the Body of Christ. Yep, you're a good Catholic alright.

Stones what do you tell your Priest and members of your Church that actually go to religious rallies or do the other things I listed. Do you tell them that they are intolerant religious zealots like me. And your so called safety nets do you mean abortion. If you do attend a Catholic Church a vast majority open their doors before 6:00 AM and some earlier. And if Jesus were alive today and he had the decision to give food to a hungry person or save a baby from being aborted , believe me Jesus would first save the baby and then take care of the hungry next. Stones don't put on a false facade that you are a real or better Catholic than I am , if you were you would make or find time to do the things that I mentioned. And grow up you big oaf since you find it necessary to call someone stupid because you don't like their comment.

And don't forget that if Jesus was alive today, he would be celebrating Chanukah. Deal with that, Church-boy.

Since when did aiding and abetting criminals become a community service?

You may have not heard of this since it happened around the same time as Jerry Sandusky's conviction, but the monsignor of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia who was in charge of priest placement got convicted of aiding and abetting pedophile priests.

L&C two different scenarios. Under State of Illinois statute, Cardinal George committed no crime and the case was looked into by the SAO. No criminal case.

I think you mean Texas, not Illinois.

And then you claim you are a better Catholic then me? Not! With a childish and sexual comment in nature you should that to your Priest too!

Then you need to learn more about what happen... Especially from the Cardinals own words... I posted this last time you were on this idotic defense of him and chose to ignore it... He knew for years... In his own statement he said he struggled to find an answer wether to protect the children or the church...
yea, that really sounds like a guy who did the right thing... He should be jailed...

Wrong again Vera, at least 5 more children were abused by McCormick after Cardinal George was made aware of the abuse by a Nun who worked at St. Agatha's. You really are dense whin it comes to this topic. More so, than any of the others.

When there is a criminal investigation and someone isn't charged with a crime, it's because they don't have enough evidence to do so.

As with any crime and investigation. Elements of a crime did not meet the criteria for charges against the Cardinal. Case closed.

If you were as hardcore a Catholic as you claim to be, you wouldn't be putting up a Christmas tree. Its origins are attributed to Martin Luther, who as you well know had a little spat with the Vatican.

Googling a little more? Use the candles, please. They're such a nice touch.

Still love to see the mopes out there to try and stop us from protesting outside the murder mills. No one has the gonads to come out there and confront us. Catholic or not I would take a stance regardless what happens and tell the mopes what and where to go. Put up or shut and mind your own business when he do our protesting.

Do you think Jesus is going to appear to you at the Second Coming? Bzzt! Wrong! He was not a descendant of kings or the chief priests. His earthly father was a carpenter. He didn't hang out with the religious elite. He took his ministry directly to the people.

People use the word liberal because they feel it's an insult. I think you need to look at the definition.

So L&C you know better than the Catholic church does and it's teachings. Wow I'm surprised that you pass your self off as a Catholic then. You should be Jewish then , because the jewish faith don't believe in the second coming.

liberal[ lib-er-uh l, lib-ruh l ]
adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
Thus liberal Catholics and Democrates that want and believe in abortion, same sex marriage and other immoral issues that make them happy and screw everthing and everybody else.

Creamed corn, I HATE creamed corn.

I also hate intolerance, uninformed opinions, liars and illegal/unjust wars.

I hate low life scum bag gangs, criminals, crooked politicians, and all scum that participate in any criminal activity and defey law enforcement. Lock them all up.

"and all scum that participate in any criminal activity and defey law enforcement. Lock them all up."

Would that include pedophile priests and the people in the diocesan administration who aid and abet them?

L&C I have no problem with pedophile priest being locked up at all. Like I said the Cardinal committed no crime, if he did I have no problem with him being charged. Also Illinois no longer has or charges one with aiding and abetting. It's now accountability .

I would expect an old hardcore Catholic like yourself wouldn't care for the Nicene Creed seeing that it has been changed. I bet you stumble over consubstanial all the time.

The only part of the Mass that still trips me up occasionally is the blessing of the Eucharist: "Lord I am not worthy that You should enter under my roof, but only say the Word and my soul shall be healed."

Stones you sound like a grumpy old man. Always complaining if you don't like somebody's comment. I know my prayers quite well by the way. Did you know the correct and ethical way during the Offertory and saying the Our Father ,one should fold their hands and not reach out and hold hands. Let me guess I'm wrong and you know it all. Plus I'm very capable and a very good Eucharistic Minster as well. Besides the Priest conducting the mass and Organists playing the music/singing I run the rest of the show during and after mass. Vivas Jesus!!!

"Did you know the correct and ethical way during the Offertory and saying the Our Father ,one should fold their hands and not reach out and hold hands."

Tell that to the parishoners of my old church, St. Fabian in Bridgeview. The whole congregation holds hands during the Our Father. The pastor there, Father Cyscon, once joked that, when he said his first Mass there after being reassigned, he wondered if we'd fall over like dominoes if he'd pushed one of us.

Also, I see a lot of hand-holding at my current church, St. Christopher in Midlothian.

"Besides the Priest conducting the mass and Organists playing the music/singing I run the rest of the show during and after mass."

Are you on the parish board at your church? You sure seem to have an inflated sense of self-worth.

L&C did you know changes are coming back to the Church as they were in the old days. Singing all the prayers and responses and most likely kneeling down at the alter to receive communion on the tongue. I bet you will not like the changes. Do you know why the bells are rung during mass while kneeling down during the Offertory?

"L&C did you know changes are coming back to the Church as they were in the old days. Singing all the prayers and responses and most likely kneeling down at the alter to receive communion on the tongue. I bet you will not like the changes. Do you know why the bells are rung during mass while kneeling down during the Offertory?"

How the hell do you know this? Do you have an inside line to the Vatican?

I seriously doubt it. Sounds more like wishful thinking on your part. If you really want things back the way they were, go join those lunatics in the Society of St. Pius X.

L&C do you live in the dark ages. Recall the recent changes to the readings and notice that most Churches sing some readings and prayers now. Or are you asleep in the pew. Still don't know why the altar boy chimes the bells? Take time and talk to your Priest and ask him questions. At our KOC meetings we have an ask your Father session and our Priest explained to us of the possible changes and why. Also take time to listen to Relevant radio and hear some of the interesting topics they cover. You might just learn something. Or do you attend a liberal and free spirit Church?

Bob - I don't care for presents either. Mainly cause I am an adult. I feel Christmas is a children's holiday (hence the Santa stories). Why give me a present? If I want something, I'll go get it myself.
I get some people like to receive to which I say, each his own. Unlike our friend here, I do not judge people. Buy whoever whatever. It's your right.

You left out all the money you give to Planned Parenthood!

Way in the hell would I give money to the PPH hell hole. I pray that things happen to it. Plus I donate a lot of $$$ to KOC.

Vera, the Jewish Faith doesn't believe Jesus was The Messiah. They're still waiting. Please don't post what you're unaware of.

Stones the Jewish belief is Judaism which they can follow , but I stick with my Catholicism teaching and beliefs of Christianity. So I don't care what others relgion there is, no concern to me and never will be.

Stone also I don't care what other faiths or religions believe in or folliow. They mean nothing to me and I have no use for them.

Jesus was not "The King of the Jews". That was sign put on his crucifix by the Romans.

L&C the Church teachings still refer to Jesus as the king of Jews.
The acronym INRI (Iēsus Nazarēnus, Rēx Iūdaeōrum) represents the Latin inscription which in English reads as "Jesus the Nazarene, King of the Jews"

Wishing death ? Where? You're so stupid and you think you can say who is isn't a Catholic! And yes Confession does absolve one of sins. Direct conflict? Go and learn something Bolingbrook trash, I bet you like and praise people who believe in abortion and are Catholic. You problem aren't even Christian let alone Catholic and attend pagan services. Love to hear about your perfect and unsinful life. Not!!Bye bye atheist.