Village Board Reduces Hours for Trick or Treating

Despite incurring wrath of some parents, Trustee Alex Olejniczak believes change is in "the best interest of the community."

Sorry, kids, but Halloween just got an hour shorter. The voted 3-1 on Tuesday to end trick or treating at 7 p.m.

Twhen he asked the board to consider reducing the hours for trick or treating and “not one person as I was quoted as saying” in Patch.

“As a trustee, when someone brings a concern to me I investigate it to see if it’s valid and something I should bring up [with the village board],” Olejniczak said.

Before the village board voted, a father stood up and asked trustees to reconsider shortening the hours for trick-or-treating.

“Parents like me who have 9-to-5 jobs and don’t exactly work around the corner, with the time change happening there is no way I could go trick or treating with my kids without trying to race home and get in costume and go out with them for 20 minutes,” he said. “In my opinion the way the ordinance is now is fine. I think it’s a really good middle ground.”

He asked the village board that if the ordinance were to change, to consider doing it next year “so people like me can made arrangements at work to switch schedules or use vacation days.”

“I don’t think it’s fair,” he added.

Trustee Carol Quinlan (Dist. 5) supported keeping the hours as they are now that allow trick or treating until 8 p.m.

“It’s a valid point that parents who are working and get home later to have that opportunity to take their children out,” Quinlan said. “That’s ultimately what we want—parents to take their children out on Halloween.”

Quinlan cast the dissenting vote. Trustees who supported cutting back trick or treating hours, in addition to Olejniczak, were Bob Streit (Dist. 3) and Tom Duhig (Dist. 4). Trustee Tom Phelan did not attend Tuesday’s board meeting because of a family emergency.

“I get the constructive criticism,” Olejniczak said. “I’ve gotten the wrath of a lot of parents that are concerned about this. I still believe that reducing the hours to 7 or 7:30 p.m. is in the best interest of the community.”

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Grunty October 18, 2011 at 01:46 PM
I am not in Alex's district, but my father is. I'm in district 1. I have been discussing what the next move should be, and a "multitude" of people have told me that trying to work the situation out with Alex one on one would be a waste of time. I wanted to hold off on doing petition or protesting until I had a chance to speak with Alex and Tom Phalen. I still have not heard from Tom Phalen, and although I am also being told that Tom usually sides with Alex on most issues, I'm hoping that I can persuade him to see things from my point of view. If he agrees to reverting the ordinance, we would have a split vote and the decision would go to the mayor. I'm going to be contacting Tom Phalen again today. I am confident the mayor would revert the ordinance back to 3-8 pm.
Grunty October 18, 2011 at 03:36 PM
I've created a facebook group that is publicly joinable by anyone in the village or anyone outside the village wanting to keep track of this story. https://www.facebook.com/groups/265855020119725/ Let me know if that link does not work.
calm down October 18, 2011 at 04:30 PM
Sir what you find unethical and catastrophic may not mean anything to someone else in Oak Lawn. I respect your views and opinions but you DO NOT speak for me in the Village of Oak Lawn. There is no out cry in the streets for this issue. It means everything to you but not me. The trustees vote their minds, you disagree, I'm fine with that but please preface your comments in regards to how other residents should regard this issue. Thank You
Grunty October 18, 2011 at 04:38 PM
I don't see anywhere in my statement that I say i'm speaking for anyone other then myself or the other parents I've spoken to. Unless you are my father, or my grandfather back from the dead, perfect for halloween, you are not even referenced in my statement. I never said I represented anyone other then myself and other parents who think like me. You are not one of them, and therefore I am not speaking for you. Please calm down. Thank you.
Grunty October 18, 2011 at 04:44 PM
Also my comments are all prefaced with phrases like "i personally" not "Everyone personally"; "some other parents and I" not "all parents in oak lawn and I"; "I'm not sure about the rest of you" not "I'm certain you all feel this way and I represent your thoughts"; "I find his behavior" not "We in oak lawn find his behavior" Everything is prefaced, so not sure what you want.
Dan October 18, 2011 at 04:48 PM
When is the next meeting?
Grunty October 18, 2011 at 04:49 PM
October 25th
Dan October 18, 2011 at 04:55 PM
Calm down, you sound like a real ass.and i bet you are happy with the 7 oclock idea.I say we should go to the meeting and voice our opion on this.Sounds like Alex is kissing someones asses around Oaklawn.
Dan October 18, 2011 at 05:04 PM
Will they bring up this up at the next meeting?
Grunty October 18, 2011 at 06:17 PM
It is going to be up to both Cindy Trausch and Tom Phalen if this is put on the agenda for the next meeting.
Dan October 18, 2011 at 06:39 PM
Well why is it up to them to put it on the agenda.did they get to vote on it in the first place?
Grunty October 18, 2011 at 06:41 PM
Cindy was not yet voted in as the trustee for dist. 1 and Tom Phalen was absent due to a family emergency.
P Roberts October 18, 2011 at 08:15 PM
Maybe the board should focus on the next election!
P Roberts October 18, 2011 at 08:59 PM
When all's said and done, what I did get out of this is a list of those trustees I would vote for in the next round of elections. Beware of the person who never had power, too many errors in "trying" to learn how it works. And I know for sure, we do NOT need two paid "leaders". One will do nicely. Lets grow up folks. We're in for some bad times, and have no need for this silliness.I feel as though I'm in a play written by losers, attempting to fight back. Further, we need budget cuts clearly. Attornies don't often lose court cases against them. Thats all folks!
Merrit October 18, 2011 at 10:46 PM
Figures Steit was in on this negative vote against kids, I like the idea of signs- a sign that says you don't give out candy after 7, you are out of candy or even a sign that says you don't celebrate Halloween....
jim October 18, 2011 at 11:35 PM
Grunty, I am with you! We don't need more rights taken away, what is with our Government.? Control !!! People of Oak Lawn watch out!! See you on Election Day!
Oak Lawn Gal October 18, 2011 at 11:59 PM
Well if it were me I'd take my kids out Trick or Treating as late as I wanted to. I can't imagine the OL police even issuing tickets on this. Turning off the house lights at 7:00 is an easy solution for people who don't want to give out candy. With all of the problems in the village I can't believe this is even an issue they voted on. What a waste of time and energy.
Why Bother October 19, 2011 at 04:00 AM
I can't believe this is an issue to write about. 90 posts for a Halloween story?? Where were all you people last election?? 18% turnout last election might tell you nobody cares what the halloween hours are. Can't wait till next week when this stupid story goes away for another year!!!
tech 5 October 19, 2011 at 06:10 AM
I wonder if that news crew at the melvina property today knows about our trick or treat law?
Oak Lawn Gal Who? October 19, 2011 at 12:25 PM
oak Lawn gal you seem to be a knowitall. If you had kids? Sounds like you don't and should just stick to dogs since you think you're smarter than everyone. You should quit your condescending attitude.
Oak Lawn Gal October 19, 2011 at 12:39 PM
If I had kids who were still young enough to go trick or treating I'd take them out even if it was after 7:00. I have no idea why the board took this up as an issue, It's a waste of time imo. Nothing condescending about my opinion at all unless you're easily intimidated.
Dan October 19, 2011 at 01:28 PM
I do belive that now this has nothing to do with halloween.What it has to do with is that the village idoits have nothing better to do and they want to feel like they still have the power over the people and can control our every move.it is principal now people.First its halloween then what next you can only walk your dog from 2 to 4.No bike riding from 6 to 8.Rember we are now past this being a halloween thing.Its about the village telling use what we can do and cant do.I know we must follow the law but this is where it starts and they will slowly start chiseling away at other dumb shit.If you dont stand up now it will keep going.Sorry if this sounds a little deep but come on village board.Lets spend more money on bronze statues we dont need for the parks you are building that we dont need.
P Roberts October 19, 2011 at 02:48 PM
I agree. It's this "I can't be wrong attitude that's got us paying for lawyers disagreeing, and other disagreements the board got into with no solution. I know, lets fist fight it out in a local tavern, that's real adult. Lets buy horrible reminders of 9/11 for the Childrens museum, how appropriate, when we're so concerned with trick or treating. The village is blowing in the wind, with no cooperation to stop it. Seems everything here is changing. And not for the better. Be careful. There are hundreds of houses at a good price on the market in grown-up burbs that are looking pretty good.........
Lantern October 19, 2011 at 04:27 PM
i think all this halloween vote bs is a ploy to cover up bigger issues going on behind our backs just wait and see. grunty, phelan is gonna do the "my hands are tied" bs so don't bother giving him any attention, since thats all he looks for. alex backed him on the brunswick garbage and it's payback time. just games played on our dime
P Roberts October 19, 2011 at 06:53 PM
Where, Jim? I didn't see anything about retired people. Reading comprehension problem? If not, you should be more specific to be believed.
Dan October 19, 2011 at 08:46 PM
So what can the people of oak lawn do.I just saw the video of the voteing on you tube,What a bunch of BS.You qre right lantern look at the tax watch.And by the way who the hell is out there watching the cars so called trickeling in to oaklawn to come trick or treating from other citys.What now my son and my grandaughter cant come to oaklawn to trick or treat I hate to say it but Alex ,Stop
P Roberts October 20, 2011 at 01:15 PM
Are you familiar with the word, sarcasm? Are you an adult? I'll post the meaning if you ask nicely. Does Patch have a center for children to post to each other? No wondrer the board gets away with all the things it does.
P Roberts October 23, 2011 at 05:27 PM
OL taxpayer, Petty violations can add up, and the key word is petty. The mayor is in charge of keeping Oak Lawn a friendly and nice place to live. Seems you would like to assign a police officer to each and every person living here, just incase, and have us all carrying a book of rules not voted on by the public or of any value to normal folks. You want to be mayor, run. Seems a few in this village think the citizens need instructions on how to live their lives., well count me out for sure. I learned to park correctly in high school, and don't need a refresher course. And certainly need no instructions on raising kids. Im sure my neighbors would report I'm a very reasonable person. Live your own life and leave the rest of us alone That's not what ordinances are for!
P Roberts October 23, 2011 at 05:35 PM
If so, what fools weand the Board are to be wasting so much time on the exact time the kids must quit collecting candy.. Just recall Alex and call it a day.
P Roberts October 23, 2011 at 05:41 PM
And lets hang signs from the lamp posts that the Oak Lawn Policemen are NOT your personal baby sitters. Thats the parents job.


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