What Should Go Here? Does Oak Lawn Need A New Dream Team?

With the consolidated election less than a year away, should we keep the current village board intact or is change needed?

With the consolidated election less than a year away (April 2, 2013), does the need a new dream team?

Six seats are up for election, including the mayor, village clerk and even-numbered trustee districts 2, 4 and 6.

Mayor Dave Heilmann has already

Trustees Alex Olejniczak (Dist. 2), Tom Duhig (Dist. 4) and Tom Phelan (Dist. 6) are up for re-election presuming that they are running.

A special election is also being held for the Dist. 1 seat that was Cindy Trautsch was appointed to take Hurckes’ place last fall.

And the village clerk’s position, currently held by Jane Quinlan, Oak Lawn’s only full-time elected official, is up for renewal.

What changes—if any—would you make on the dais? Does the house need cleaning or should these officials be retained?

Take our poll and tell us whom you’d vote for if the mayoral election were being held tomorrow.

Then come back and tell us in the comments if you think your current trustee is doing a good job or if a change is needed.

OakLawnGuy May 01, 2012 at 04:50 PM
You cite 2 terms, it could be more. It would prevent trustees and/or the Mayor from building a small fiefdom, as happened back in the Kolb/Dumke days. It would help bring new ideas, new perspectives. It would prevent complacency. On a larger scale, it would help prevent certain State officials from placing, and keeping, "their guys/gals" in office. Again, refer to the Kolb/Dumke days.
No filter May 01, 2012 at 10:23 PM
The real truth is Streit is not smart and will leverage Jane Quinlan, Tom Phelan, Alex and try to muster the Chicago Democrats and bulldogs help. They would capture say 40% - 45%, but Heilmann would still score big on his own in District 5, District 4, District 3. Wildcard is Hurckes in District 1, and between him and Heilmann, they are solid there. Better strategy for them is to break out independently and throw any $ at Hurckes in District 1. Truth is, Heilmann will split the south, and if he wins north, it will be by 10%.
OakLawnGuy May 01, 2012 at 11:47 PM
If Mr. Streit "controls" 3, where were all his voters during the most recent election? And Mr. Hurckes is still a powerful influence in 1. Perhaps moreso now that he serves solely as Lipinski's staff boss.
andy skoundrianos May 02, 2012 at 04:04 AM
Hey Filter Bob Streit working with chicago dem's??? You must be nuts... They work against him every election in dist. 3 i should know I live in dist. 3 and campaign for him Heilmann has never done really well in dist 3 or 4 his base is 5 It all depends if slates are formed or everyone runs as independents in that case, everything will be up for grabs..
andy skoundrianos May 02, 2012 at 04:06 AM
OLG as the late Mayor told me once " as long as you have one more vote the than other guy it's still a w"
Lorraine Swanson (Editor) May 02, 2012 at 04:47 AM
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Talkingstill May 02, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Earth to No Filter. Earth to No Filter. Come in Please. Heilmann is strong in his home base of District 5. Jane Quinlan is strong in District 6. Streit controls Dist 3 and District 4 has always been independent. Hurckes isn't the Trustee any longer in Dist 1. That's Trautsch. So without Heilmann putting together a coalition (sorry Andy) with some of these people, he'll probably see a split on the board.
OakLawnGuy May 02, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Oh yeah, all pro sports championship teams say the same every year. No Filter, I believe Mr. Streit is a registered Republican. I seem to remember hearing that about the time that the Trib piece regarding the Village attorney situation and Mike Madigan's involvement was published, because the "politics make strange bedfellows" was my first reaction. (The mayor is GOP-leaning, too, I think.) And considering he was fighting the Lipinski Sr. forces for several years, I'd have to say, yeah, he's not looking to City Dems for support.
QC May 02, 2012 at 04:53 PM
By David Kidwell, Tribune reporter September 13, 2009 The night Madigan was feted by the village trustees, they also received a board-ordered report that blasted the billing practices of the old village attorneys. The village was still looking for more legal help in September when Madigan agreed to serve as a sponsor of a fundraiser for Streit, a trustee who acknowledges never before in his 19-year political career has he enjoyed the speaker's political support. That Sept. 30, 2009, fundraiser coincided with Streit's recommendations of two more law firms to serve on the village's new legal team to issue revenue bonds for the water project and other construction work. The other bond counsel recommended by Streit was MILLER CANFIELD, an international law firm represented by CHICAGO PARTNER PAUL DURBIN, the SON OF U.S. SEN. DICK DURBIN, D-ILL. PAUL DURBIN DECLINED TO COMMENT.
QC May 02, 2012 at 05:10 PM
Her "sense" (?) is to follow what her Thugs Tell Her to Do. Which is why certain trustees sing her praises so loudly. They need another talking head to do their bidding. I Highly doubt that she knows where All of the "money is going on a daily basis". Anyone remember the polling places Fiasco caused by the illustrious Clerk, that she denied she was at Fault for? Orr's office verified that She Was Wrong! She Lied about reviewing the maps - She Didn't- Her presence at Deja brew with her "Boys" the night of their brawl? She has always said "I'm a Team Player". We Really need to send a message to the whole Board that says "Ding. Your time's up!"
andy skoundrianos May 02, 2012 at 07:38 PM
QC What is your issue with Jane?? I don't like the Mayor's policies or his choice in law firms, but your outright hatred and anger towards Jane is really sad. What policy did she ever make?? Were is the report from Orr?? What boys?? She was always for Oak Lawn period Jealous because She received more votes than your guy??
Dave W. May 03, 2012 at 03:34 AM
J. Quinlan would not win and she knows it...why would she want to give up a paying job to be mayor? The only reason would be power since everyone seems convinced she is already doing Oak Lawn such a service that she will get the next statue (she can sit with Kolb on the bench). If it is power, is that REALLY who we want for the next mayor? Heilmann is not terrible (sorry Andy), nor is he great. We voted for mediocrity, we elected mediocrity. It is sort of funny (not the 'haha' kind) that Andy, OLG and I all live in the same area, because Streit is NEVER going anywhere, and we wouold probably all do better than half the trustees (or more), just on level of engagement alone. (Sure, I'd get elected on my rollicking sense of humor, since I have a face for radio, but still.) Keep in mind this board nearly killed off Halloween because ten people in Olejniczak's area hate kids. How is that representing the whole town? Phelan's apparently famous for visiting places he embarrass himself in, Trautsch has barely warmed up her seat and she wants to get rid of people making announcements to the public in meetings because they take too long. Nobody even seems to know who Duhig IS...Carol Quinlan gets confused by the public with the Clerk, and Streit has been around forever and almost lost because nobody bothered to vote. We ELECTED these people (minus Trautsch), people. We complain about everything, yet twenty people attend the meetings, and voting is a hassle. We deserve mediocrity.
andy skoundrianos May 03, 2012 at 04:01 AM
Dave, Jane is a good person who works hard for everyone in the village. She is the finest person I have met in the village hall and I've seen em all for 20 years. I hope she runs for clerk again,but I think she would beat Dave. This may surprise ya Dave but Bob Streit is the most informed on the village board because he has been there for 21 years. No one could have put up with the 14 years of crap the coalition party dumped on him 5 against 1 all those years I know I wouldn't have had..
Payroller May 03, 2012 at 04:12 AM
Dave, You do know the Mayor gets paid, right? Jane could leave being clerk, which pays, and run for Mayor, which pays. OR Jane could run with someone (Dave or someone else) and help them get elected as Mayor
OakLawnGuy May 03, 2012 at 11:55 AM
Payroller, Clerk Quinlan would lose about $15K a year taking the Mayor's job. I feel also that since she's sunk plenty of personal time into the job for education and certification alone she wouldn't want to walk away from it. It would look good on the resume, though. She did run for her office with the Unity Party, I would imagine she'd align herself with another for the next election. Andy, yeah I think she'd have a solid shot at winning as well. At least 4 trustees would support her candidacy, it appears. Dave W., I have no experience in the business world nor do I enjoy pressing flesh and such so there's no way I could take any of these jobs. I just hope that anyone who has strong feelings about whatever candidate they favor will get the heck out there and vote. The turnouts in this town going back at least 20 years have been embarrassing.
stilltaking May 03, 2012 at 02:35 PM
We already have term limits every four years when the voters get to vote for the candidate of their choice.
stilltaking May 03, 2012 at 02:38 PM
That poll tells me that Heilmann and Quinlan together are unbeatable. It also tells me that by and large Phelan, Duhig, Olejniczak, and Trautch could be beaten by a dog!
stuckbehindalaptop May 03, 2012 at 04:38 PM
Dave how do you know what Jane Quinlan knows? You shouldn't write statements that are not based in fact. Do you know her personally? It's so easy to anonymously spew garbage from a computer but it takes guts to serve publicly. I am leary of any public official who is liked by everyone. I'd watch your mouth and what you say about Mrs. Quinlan & any trustee or mayor. Don't be starting rumors. You might be a taxpayer but you aren't that bright and there's no guarantee you'd do much better than anyone. If you were smart you'd be out ther doing something instead of sitting behind a laptop criticizing everyone. Did you ever talk to your Trustee? Or the Mayor? Until you have some sort of personal experience to base your insults on maybe you should shut the hell up.
QC May 03, 2012 at 07:58 PM
stuck How do you know what Dave knows? Apparently You "aren't that bright". Take your own advice and: "Until you have some sort of personal experience to base your insults on maybe you should shut the hell up."
QC=Mayor May 03, 2012 at 09:02 PM
QC everyone knows you are Dave Heilmann why don't you just admit it. You are the only one who blogs on here who thinks Dave walks on water. You slam Phelan ,Jane Quinlan ,Bob Streit,, and Andy all the time. They all have one thing in common they want you out Dave better get another screen name... Hey I see Jane i still beating you in the poll..
Scott May 04, 2012 at 01:59 AM
QC, you live in Matteson and work in Oak Lawn. You hated Dave Heilmann, and now you are trying to support him. I just don't get it. You told the firefighters to hate the mayor, and then you gave money to him. I think it's all about you trying to get influence.
Bob Lanz May 04, 2012 at 02:43 AM
Dear Scott this is at least the second time you have referred to me wrongly. I do live in MATTESON and work in oak lawn as a firefighter and I do not use the moniker QC. Don't know who that is and don't care. Just like I really could care less who everyone is that uses an anonymous handle. I know I use my real names both first and last. So does Andy and a few other, they also include a nice pic. I do not always agree with Andrew but respect his and everyone's opinions. I do not appreciate nor respect false claims and derogatory comments that some of you make about Oak Lawn firefighters and your outrageous and unfair accusations about us as a group. I do not nor did I ever hate Dave Heilmann. I do not tell my members what they should or should not do. As their elected rep I do give my opinion and advice. I do not want or need any influence as you put it. I am not running for any office. Scott it sure seems like think you know me when you don't and you sure as hell have your mind made up about me and we have more than likely never met. F Just for ou Scott I don't hide who I am or where I am at or how to contact me so feel free to stop Blythe firehouse or email me or call me anytime. For once do our own research. Bob Lanz Secretary-Treasurer local 3405 708-269-7144
andy skoundrianos May 04, 2012 at 04:07 AM
Scott I know that QC is not Mr. Lanz QC is someone I believe is in an elected position in the village This person has too much insider knowledge. I think Oak Lawn has the best fire and police departments in Ill. I just don't like the fact that the firefighters get involved in local elections. Either way the election goes there are going to make enemies on the board if the candidates they didn't back get elected. The police don't get involved that's the way it should be,but that's a decision the firefighters have to make.. Mr Lanz always uses his name and no. and I respect him for that.
Oak Lawn Gal May 04, 2012 at 05:43 AM
I think Jane would make an interesting candidate. It would be a pay cut for her but that may not be important to her. But given voter apathy and also uninformed voting I think the Mayor would probably beat Jane. By uninformed voting I'm referring to people who vote for the status quo because they don't follow village issues very closely. I'd also like to see the candidates have some public debates. I'd show up for that.
OakLawnGuy May 04, 2012 at 11:33 AM
It's the complete lack of voting that really screws up local elections. There was at least one debate between Messrs. Heilmann and Hurckes prior to an election, and yes, that would be beneficial this time around as well.
Stilltalking May 04, 2012 at 12:19 PM
The fact that Oak Lawn Girl, Oaklawnguy, Andy, or me would show up to a debate does not mean there should be a debate. Like Oaklawnguy said, Heilmann and Hurckes debated last time. Was there a big turnout then? Of course not! Debates don't spur turnout in voting. Some people will not vote no matter what is happening. Either they are happy with the status quo or they don't think their vote matters. Either way, a debate is just a way to get the candidates' supporters to come for their respective candidates. Nobody else cares! If Jane runs, I wouldn't expect her to debate. Her strength is one on one contact. Dave's strength is television. However, I don't know if Jane will run when she can win the clerk spot straight up. The yet to be named candidate polls pretty well. Dave should be worried, based on the nonscientific poll, that the yet to be named candidate may team up with the other top vote getters and give him a run.
star star May 04, 2012 at 01:40 PM
The Mayor and Jane as Clerk is the ultimate dream team. We don't need a clerk who is an attorney. Keep Duhig in district 4, phelan in 6 and Alex in 1. No change needed!
stilltalking May 04, 2012 at 04:45 PM
I don't think the Mayor will go for that ticket. Isn't he in the minority? Why would he agree to take all three of the trustees and stay in the minority? Plus Alex is in 2 unless he moved. Traustch is in 1. I could see him taking Jane, Traustch and maybe Duhig because he's harmless. But I don't see him taking phelan under any circumstances. by the way, what attorney is running for clerk?
Lurkingintheshadows March 24, 2013 at 04:40 AM
I continue to hear talk about change. Is change good? Well, if it's good change. I feel our village is always changing, being honest with ourselves, growth brings more and more new challenges. With these, I want the people at the controls with some level of experience, not to be distracted by things such as, how to be a Village Manager, who signs what, negotiating contracts and agreements on a large scale, learning the personalities, or (Split Personalities) of some of the Trustee's and Un-Trustee's. I have yet to see indication that there has been any history of Public Office, any history of being on any village board, or for that matter, an obligation of any type that would show participation in assisting in the direction of a village or town by Ms. Bury. A business owner yes, and an Optometrist. I am looking for something that I can hang my coat on. Anything that would make me comfortable turning over the direction of the village to a novice. Our current Mayor is no novice in this arena, which by the way, while mentioning arena's...Phelan is on his way out, Alex should follow suit. There now would be some change. Good change. Getting back to business without a continual side show and lack of self control being displayed on their part. The squeeky wheel gets the oil. It also gets replaced. Choose your forum carefully. Not all require or even tolerate boxing gloves and loud voices. Hopefully nobody is offended. If so, you may want to take a look at yourself!


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