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On the article D229 Board and Parents Battle Over Student Cell Phone Policy
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On the article D229 Board and Parents Battle Over Student Cell Phone Policy
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7:10 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012
Snowfire, I believe Teena is referring to the current policy that is in place right now, which is the policy that Ms. Misner was a part in changing, due to her being on the discipline committee. That I believe is the policy that is working and doesn't need changing back to the old policy.
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On the article D229 Board and Parents Battle Over Student Cell Phone Policy
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9:34 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012
OLCHSMom, yes thank you for making the point about the test scores. I couldn't find it to reference that you said it with all these comments. It seems we are on the same side. Doesn't bother me either if they have phones. I'd rather they do for safety issues and communication from home. The educational tool part only became the main subject because others were demanding what is the educational value of having them in school. I too, was frustrated with the constant questioning to back up my position and being attacked simply because I may be a friend of Ms. Misner, but they didn't seem to have any back up to their own position, except that they got along just fine without cell phones in H.S. As you may or may not know, the reason the cell phone policy was challenged last year is because the policy wasn't working, regardless of who or why they challenged it. It's funny, we have confidence, respect and give the right to a 16 year old to drive and operate a two ton motor vehicle to school, but we can't give them the opportunity to be responsible and make good choices when it comes to using their cell phone. I apologize if I offended you or anyone else. Just my opinion!
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On the article D229 Board and Parents Battle Over Student Cell Phone Policy
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4:05 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012
Jelly Belly, who do you think you are talking to? I was trying to make a point to Dave W. that it can be a useful tool. FYI Jelly Belly, there are plenty of jobs out there that require you to have a cell phone and or computer and your job DOESN'T provide them for you or pay the bill for it. Therefore, I don't have rules attached to my phone. I was just merely making a point that technology is out there when these kids get into the real world. I certainly wouldn't have been able to do my first job, had I not had experience with computers. But your point is valid, it doesn't matter what I had in High School or anyone else. Don't worry my child will and does follow the rules whatever happens with this topic. It just so happens to not bother me if they get to use the phones.
But you bring up another interesting point, rules for the employee. As commenter "Dee" referenced, "Teachers sit in the classrooms texting away in their free moments in class." What does the board plan on doing about that issue? I wonder what example they are sending to the kids? It doesn't take research to use common sense and acknowledge that technology is here to stay!
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On the article D229 Board and Parents Battle Over Student Cell Phone Policy
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7:27 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012
I don't recall anyone saying that the school was falling down! Has it changed over the years? Sure. The whole area has changed. There is no denying the school has issues that need to be worked out. Someone on here mentioned the demographics, ESL, test scores because some of kids can't speak or read the language, all ADD to the AYP of the school. People say the same thing about Reavis High School in Burbank. I know several kids from that area, all doing well and top in their class, just like I know many here at OL. The education is there if the student wants it. Even in the CPS the education is there. I know plenty of great teachers that work there, so I know there is education there. It just depends on the students and their families.
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On the article D229 Board and Parents Battle Over Student Cell Phone Policy
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7:14 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012
Dave W. Do you work? Do you have a computer? Do you use it for work? Do you have a cell phone? Do you use that for work? Back when I went to OL, computers were the BIG thing then. OL was preparing kids for college and for those of us who wanted to go right into the work place. They were pertinent to getting the job. People felt the same way about computers, you could live without them. Now, I'm not saying that OL should have classes on cell phones, or that you need one to get a job, but you can't deny their role in the work place. Most jobs today require you to have a cell phone. They can be a useful tool. You can research on them just like a computer. Email, text, calendars are on all the phones. They even have a calculator and most have a GPS, which for some jobs can be useful. Not to mention, the benefits of having the knowledge of the latest technology needed in the work place. Overall, useful too!
Now, you may not believe that they are a useful tool, but I do, as well as others on this blog, so please stop giving us the "MY only real issue with your position is that you don't really offer any real substantive, valid reasoning for why they HAVE to be in school. What value do they add to the educational process?" As far as I'm concerned, you and others haven't given us a real reason not to have them, other then because you didn't when you were in school.
Dave, do you even have a child in the district that goes or will be going to OL?
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On the article D229 Board and Parents Battle Over Student Cell Phone Policy
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On the article D229 Board and Parents Battle Over Student Cell Phone Policy
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1:42 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012
ReplyThumbs up - Maybe they couldn't make the meeting? Or maybe they thought the board would have better sense then to dangle a policy over these kids heads and then take it away? Perhaps they felt it was a working policy and they thought the board would have to be crazy to overturn it? Because guess what? They are teenagers, young adults who are going to make mistakes, make decisions and do things despite how great a student they are or what their parent(s) think!
So let me get this straight, it's the Misner Policy and the Melnik overturn now? These are the only two people in this whole scenario? Sounds to me like that's been the problem all along. It's a struggle of power and who's gonna win? She didn't go through all this to change a policy one, just because her daughter got in trouble and two, for all the power! She went through all of this because she saw something that clearly wasn't working for ANYONE, the school, the staff, the students and the parents. The people against the policy, not all but the select few, who had a huge hand in overturning the policy, seems to not like the policy just because SHE changed it! I wish someone else would have done it, I can almost bet we wouldn't be having this debate.
Cub fan is right, either you are a Misner fan or you're not a Minser fan. Well, this Misner fan likes the policy for what it is, not because she's the one who changed it!
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On the article D229 Board and Parents Battle Over Student Cell Phone Policy
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11:45 pm on Monday, March 26, 2012
ReplyDave, my comment about the teaching certificate was just letting you know my education level as Cub fan pointed out, but I was referring to you for the crime comment. I don't know about you, but if I scroll down all these comments they are NOT in order so it was very hard to answer everyone's questions. And as for your last comment I agree, adults can say no to the use of either policy! If you don't like it, don't let your child have the phone in the first place.
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On the article D229 Board and Parents Battle Over Student Cell Phone Policy
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11:14 pm on Monday, March 26, 2012
ReplyOne more final note Cub fan - "I, personally, don't mind the usage of cell phones in the hall or at lunch. Let them text away." Clearly the policy doesn't affect you and you don't mind it. I, however am in favor of the current policy this year. So am I the President of the "Misner fan club? Think what you want. I support the policy no matter who brought it to the board.
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7:21 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012
Again, not trying to sound disrespectful snowfire, but I believe what Grunty's point is that if Grunty has an emergency at home, like has to take a family member to the hospital and won't be home for their younger child when he/she gets home from school. Grunty would like the opportunity to text that message to the HS student so that they could come home and watch their younger sibling, because the school will not pass on messages for parents throughout the day. There are simply TOO many students to play secretary for. Peoples lives are busier today than they were say 20 years or more ago. I see it already in my own family. We as kids were not involved in ANY activities, so it was easier for my parents to keep track of us because they weren't running all over the place. Today that is just not the case. You have to keep in touch with your teenager. As I'm sure you know, the teen years are crucial for communication and keeping them out of trouble and off the streets. I feel a good parent wants to know to keep tabs and wants to know where they are. At least that's how I feel.